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					Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss  Baseball was a much more popular game when Cobb came along, as a result, I believe his influence was much greater on the general public. Just look at the popularity of baseball cards in 1909-1910 compared to earlier years or the rise of the Sporting Life and other publications that really took off after Kelly was big. |  Totally fair.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss  Cobb was in every newspaper, he had a nickname, he was in plays, people loved and hated him and showed up in huge numbers when he played to see him or boo him. |  While Kelly may not have been in as many newspapers, I believe all the rest of this applied to Kelly in his day.
 
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					Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss  Maybe Kelley or Anson, or Lajoie or Wagner for that matter, were superstars on the field/to the people who played.  To the general public, Cobb was the first superstar baseball player - which to me means he transcended the sport and thus did more for it than anyone prior. |  To me, Jim Creighton was the first star player and Kelly the first superstar. That said, I don't fault anyone for putting Cobb on their "3 most important" list. I do believe that there should be a 19th century player on the list though. For me that would be Anson for (both good and bad) reasons others have stated.
		 
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