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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
I don't see that at all, and yes I saw him many times. Seaver was a much better pitcher. I'd probably take Carlton over him. Certainly Clemens, Maddux, R Johnson, and Pedro.
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I guess I'll never understand such arguments. If they were better, then shouldn't their numbers show it? They each had nearly as long a tenure and all had better players behind them for longer, yet Nolan holds the records. Look how many championship clubs some of those guys played for, just jam-packed with stars and HOFers. Seems like they should have easily all hurled a dozen no-hitters, pitched 6000 Ks and won at least 400 games if the lowly Ryan could do what he did with his mostly piss-poor clubs.