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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B
I guess I'll never understand such arguments. If they were better, then shouldn't their numbers show it? They each had nearly as long a tenure and all had better players behind them for longer, yet Nolan holds the records. Look how many championship clubs some of those guys played for, just jam-packed with stars and HOFers. Seems like they should have easily all hurled a dozen no-hitters, pitched 6000 Ks and won at least 400 games if the lowly Ryan could do what he did with his mostly piss-poor clubs.
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Their numbers DO show it, if you look at the more meaningful numbers, not just counting stats. For example
https://www.baseball-reference.com/l...h_career.shtml
Every pitcher I named is ahead of Ryan.
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Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 06-22-2024 at 04:52 PM.
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