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Old 01-31-2025, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by obcbeatle View Post
Hello, I hope it's ok to ask here about photo types as they might apply to vintage photos from Hollywood. If not I will desist. I am trying to understand Type 1's from Type 2's from Type 3's, etc. For instance, the first photo below came with documentation which clearly dates the photo (code #1198, Landis/Costello) as originally taken in 1928, and then re-published in this example in 1946. Would that make this 1946 photo then a Type 2? The next photo (Hedy Lamarr) came with no documentation and is dated at the bottom as 1946, the year the film was released. Would that make the Lamarr photo a Type 1? What is confusing to me in this example is that both these photo I believe were promos, perhaps sent to theaters and elsewhere, and mass produced. Thus they wouldn't qualify as Type 1 or Type 2, correct? I guess I'm confused about how the re-use of an original negative years later, particularly when re-producing photos en mass to the public or elsewhere, effects/determines the Type (1,2,3, etc.). All the photos are blank backed BTW. Thank you for any insights. PS: Just to keep this baseball related, the JJ repro is one of my favorite Jackson poses!
I stole this from another member: Lordstan.

"Type I - A 1st generation photograph, developed from the original negative, during the period (within approximately two years of when the picture was taken).

Type II - A photograph, developed from the original negative, during the period (more than approximately two years after the picture was taken).

Type III - A 2nd generation photograph, developed from a duplicate negative or wire transmission, during the period (within approximately two years of when the picture was taken).

Type IV - A 2nd generation photograph (or 3rd or later generation), developed from a duplicate negative or wire transmission, during a later period (more than approximately two years after the picture was taken)

Unfortunately many sellers misdescribe the photos they sell, some for nefarious reasons and some because they just don't know. The best advice is this. Buy the picture, not the authentication or seller description, whether they use the type description or not. Good pictures are good pictures regardless of how they are classified or described."

I don't know how to tell apart Type 1 & 2 because I'm not a photography expert. But Type 3 is easy, a photo of a photo (2nd generation) just isn't as clear, or its got hazy details. My 1940 Reds team photo I posted just a few posts back is Type 3. It's a wire photo, and the team logos on their chest have noticeable print lines. But it's dated on the back from 1940. It's still amazing.



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