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The above response says ".... supposedly Jay's started in 1958" and then says "The Jay photos started in 1958. And the Jay photos from 1958 only say Phillies." There is certainly a difference between "supposedly started" and "started". The 2008 SCD Catalogue lists the set that says only "Phillies" as the team name as "1958 Philadelphia Phillies Picture Pack" and notes in the discussion that this set differs from the Jay Publishing set which has "Philadelphia Phillies" as the team name. Unfortunately, in the 2008 catalogue, there is listing for 1958-1965 Jay Publishing Picture Packs but no checklist of photos. A checklist was available in the 2003 SCD Catalogue and the questionable 1958 Jay photos are listed there. This is all very confusing.

Checking on other teams, I see that the Yankees have 1958 Jay Publishing Photos with team name appearing as "New York Yankees". So Jay Publishing definitely had Photo Packs in 1958. I also checked the PSA population report for 1958-1961 Jay Publishing and none of the 1958 Phillies are players are listed. Maybe the answer is that Jay Publishing started in 1958 but did not do a Phillies team that year. But, of course, that is just an opinion based on research.