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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards
6 all-star appearances, 4 gold gloves and he even won a silver slugger despite the award not starting until he was a 10 year veteran. I suspect if he had played for a big market team, or even just stayed in Baltimore for his whole career, he'd have a lot bigger impact on people's psyches. Though WAR doesn't love Al Oliver I always thought that if he had been a career Pirate, with an additional WS he would've had a much better chance at getting elected. (and he's still better than Harold freakin' Baines, but then again so is EVERYONE being discussed.
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Certainly. And I wasn't trying to belittle Grich; it just felt that all this talk of him and Cooperstown came out of nowhere and due to all the (fairly) newfound love for WAR. Insofar as people wanting to see a player inducted, Evans has always had his small camp which has gained some footing at times; it seems to me that Whitaker's boosters are perhaps more recent in being louder in their hopes.
Not for the sake of any argument whatsoever, but only because I am interested in seeing how Grich compares to Whitaker and Evans with the career highlights you mentioned:
All Star Appearances:
Grich 6
Whitaker 5
Evans 3
Gold Gloves:
Grich 4
Whitaker 3
Evans 8
Silver Slugger:
Grich 1
Whitaker 4
Evans 2
Keeping in mind that Evans also had many seasons under his belt before the Silver Slugger award came about.
We can take Evans out of the discussion completely if we'd rather just deal with second basemen. However you want to do it, everyone is all over the place! The All Star aspect is just a popularity contest, so does it really matter as much as the awards?