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P SpaethBarry I think everyone shares your concerns and idealism, but until people vote with their feet (to quote Lenin), nothing is going to change. We all bemoan how bad the grading services (or at least some of them are), yet how many who went down the graded card route have stopped because of this? Au contraire, it seems to me, judging from the auctions and ebay, sales are as strong as ever if not stronger. And if that is so, there is no incentive for anyone to change.