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					Originally Posted by Leon  Where did your D322 Wagner come from, you know the one that was over 25k?   
 To your question.....Yes, if I was not personally targeted then I would be less upset, but still upset, at being shilled. I am sure that is a very difficult point for you to comprehend though. Maybe you need to take a deep breath sometime....You are turning kind of blue.
 
 
 If a person you knew, came into your home and stole something from you, would you be as upset with a stranger as you would be with them?
 
 
 take care
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 Leon, if I only bid in auctions in which I was sure I wasn't getting defrauded, I wouldn't be buying many cards.  As such, I would only buy a card from Mastro if I felt comfortable that the price was fair.  Regarding the Tip Top Wagner, I got it for 17K less than the final "price" in Goodwin's auction a year or so ago. Finally, your bringing up the card I bought from Mastro is akin to blaming the victim for a crime.  No one deserves to be defrauded, period.
Finally, I would be more upset if a trusted friend ripped me off than if a stranger did.  I think many people feel this way -- including Bernie Madoff's childhood friends.  I suspect you, Doug and Bill probably differ with the rest of us on this one.