Hoover/Plunkett and Carter/Staubach would also work IF the question had been Heisman winners. Several presidents went to Yale and without cheating I have a vague memory from somewhere that early on a Yale quarterback won the Heisman.
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Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today's hobby:
No consequences.
Stuff trumps all.
The flip is the commoodity.
Animal Farm grading.
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