[travrosty]

theres always exceptions, but it is largely so.

we just saw cc sell a cy young signed ball for 257, a babe ruth/lou gehrig signed ball for 957.

meanwhile, higher class forgeries sell with abc, xyz for 25k, 40k, 50k, 100k and more each. and these with the abc, xyz certs will continue trade and sell back and forth forever. people can try to get their money back for a joe blow cert, but who is it out there that has an abc, xyz ruth ball that is trying to get a refund and is going to succeed? no one right now, because no one will take on those companies. so the customer dropped 80 grand on a ball with abc, xyz and are going to be stuck unless they try to pass it on even though they found out its fake. (perpetuate the problem)

when you get people who think they might have fakes, are they ever abc or xyz? because if not, then either those two companies dont ever make a mistake (ha), OR they make them but never get pushed for a refund, nor the dealer that sold them.

who can push for a refund on a abc or xyz cert? no one can, that's the problem. because the dealer can always say that this is abc, xyz, not joe blow certs, so shove off. they couldnt even get delahanty pulled from the auction even though it was obvious.