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Originally Posted by travrosty
Jake, you figured it out.
if its a abc or xyz guesstimate, then its always good in the minds of some who only care about the company name on the cert, if it's not then its always bad. the actual autograph is of little consequence anymore.
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I'm not sure where you can point to anybody saying "I don't need to look at the auto, it's PSA/DNA and/or JSA."
There are a helluva lot of us willing to dismiss a TTA certed ball without looking at the sig, though. For me, PSA or JSA means I will look at the auto. TTA, Morales, AAU, many others, I'm done. They may (in a snowball's chance) be real, but I'm done. Not worth my time.
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Originally Posted by travrosty
they know no more about ruth than anyone else. Ruth's autograph has been corrupted beyond repair by all these certifications, many which look the same as the certifications by the companies they don't like and always call fake.
Switch the two balls around that i showed with the authentications, and the "good" one would still be fabulous and the tta one still fake, just like it is right now only vice versa.
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You're right about Ruth. The forgers have practiced a lot with his auto, as the prices are too good not to have.
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Originally Posted by travrosty
it's a shell game only there is no ball under any of the shells. so people don't bother looking under the shells anymore. if the shell says company ABC on it, then people will trust there is a ball under there, and any other name on the shell, they will call it bad, whether the company deserves the criticism or not.
Jake, the shells are glued down. You lose and the people on the inner circle with connections that are close to these companies win. And you will never be in that group.
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Again, where can you point to examples of net54 members blindly accepting any cert? Maybe there are numerous examples, but I don't see them. You can continue to get pissed off that people are dismissing this auto because of a non-alphabet cert, but nothing you say will stop me from doing so.
And here's the thing: most (not all) of the PSA and JSA certed autos I've seen have been legit. Keep posting counter-examples here; I enjoy and learn when you do. But most are legit. That means when I see their cert, I look closer. But there are other certs with which I don't bother looking closer. This ball has one of them.