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JohnI started a 61 fleer basketball graded set and was subbing with bvg until i just couldnt stand it anymore. they seemed to vastly overgrade the vintage cards. i then started to sub to sgc and the grading seemed perfect, maybe even a half point below what i expected. i attempted to cross my bvg to sgc, approx 20 cards....only one crossed to the same grade level. from what i've heard and looked into there appears to be one great BVG grader, Andy Broome, and the rest of the staff doesnt impress me at all. i'll stick with sgc for my vintage.