[19802008Phillies]

Originally Posted by emergencydonut

Seller's response:

Hi,

All of the ticket stubs were sold on consignment from a collector's grandson. His grandfather attended every game and would date the tickets on the back of the stub at the end of every game.

Thanks,

Bobby

This seems impossible, right? Like, this guy clearly bought these tickets from the Huggins and Scott auction. Or, someone else bought them and sold them to him, but in any case, he did not actually get these from the grandson of a collector to sell on consignment. At best, he got lied to, and at worst, he's lying. Is there another way to interpret this situation?

Edit: He followed up with:

A consignor reached out to me and told me he had just acquired a collection that his grandfather had with dates on the back of the tickets. He sent me the tickets in a binder with the dates on the back and pictures with his grandfather at the games. I took the binder apart to list the tickets and sent him back the binder with the pictures. I have no clue where the consignor acquired the tickets from. I'm just going by what he said and the information that was in the binder.

I asked him for pictures of the binder and the grandfather game photos, etc, or to follow up with the consignor for such provenance information. Reply:

I'll ask the consignor. I'm fairly certain these didn't come from an auction house though. I looked at the link that you sent and they are similar, but there's numerous amounts of tickets that have that exact same stamp on it. Grand stand seats were numerous back then. Basically a general admission ticket.

For anybody following or researching this situation/seller in the future, I am 100% convinced that this seller's ticket stubs came from the Huggins and Scott auction. The paper grain signifiers match completely, as do the edge perforations/deckling. Best example of that attached (one image with green circles marking extra-obvious unique match spots).

Interesting and thanks for passing on the info. They are 100% the same tickets, others have compared photos like you did so they did come from the H&S auction. I noticed the eBay seller does seem to be a reseller for all kinds of items so the story they are sharing could be legit as to ‘what they were told’. I find it hard to believe H&S would not include the fact that they were hand dated on the back, especially since therre were some big moments in there. I’m not sure if you searched all the sold eBay listings from this situation but the seller sold $10k+ of these things so it’s a bit more than a little white lie in my opinion. Maybe next step for you would be to ask H&S if they were dated and came in grandpas binder? If no, they’d know who the buyer was.