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ChrisOne more point about Koufax, with all due respect John you only talk about his stats but you never saw him pitch. I have collected autographs thru the mail for a number of years and often ask the question of players who the best pitcher they ever saw was and Koufax's name comes up as often as any. This coming from people who not only actually saw him play but actually stepped into the batters box against him. To me, that speaks volumes.