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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290
Are you actually comparing Andruw Jones to Roberto Clemente?? Holy s****. Also, you need to get off this WAR shit. Look at the players and not these bullshit statistics. You are also the one the said Ed Reulbach was not even close to a HOFer. His record was 182-106 with an ERA of 2.24....What the Hell is his WAR?
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times change, more information becomes available, either you learn to evolve or you fade away.
I don't see how cursing at me is improving your argument.....
Andruw Jones is the greatest outfielder defensively of all time and it isn't even close, I can present all the information to back up my claim (and none of it revolves around what I claim to have seen but rather with the scientific way: using statistics and data)
A jones- total zone runs 243
Clemente- 205
A-Jones- baseball references d-war (which I don't like particularly) 24.1
Clemente- 12.1
fangraphs DEF ranking (a conglomerate of several stats)
A-Jones - 281.3
Clemente- 84.4
Clemente was a much better hitter (hence his 80+ fWAR vs AJ's 67.1) but Andruw was a better fielder not only because of his range, and skill but also because he played the much more difficult position of CF for most of his career.