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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
He had some nice years but with a .254 career BA, and 1900 hits, he isn't getting into any Hall of Fame. EDIT TO ADD I am a Red Sox fan but I agree about Ortiz -- in my opinion he is in that host of guys a step below, even without regard to the PED issue. McGriff as mentioned, Delgado comes to mind, maybe Giambi. He has some big enough looking numbers but they don't translate that well according to the Baseball Reference metrics. He is popular though.
Black Ink Batting - 16 (144), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray Ink Batting - 137 (122), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 138 (96), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 48 (94), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS First Base (33rd), 49.0 career WAR/33.3 7yr-peak WAR/41.1 JAWS
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A JONES has a higher WAR and JAWS than most of the names being thrown out. If you don't think he's a hofer, fine. Then so aren't 80-90% of the names being thrown out.