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Originally Posted by 100backstroke
Lets be fair - give a serious look at the stats - maybe he is fully worthy of First Ballot, maybe not...
All Star 8 out of 19 years - good, not HOF material
MVP voting - 1st once, next highest 4th, then 8th - Roger Maris won 2
Bat Avg - one 1st, one 2nd, no more top 3 rank
Runs Scored - highest ever rank is 4th
RBI - highest ever rank is 9th
HR's - one 3rd, one 9th, one 10th
Played long time and "accumulated" good stats because he was pretty much injury free (relatively). But not any earth shattering stats, honestly. Good leadership skills.
It took Joe Dimaggio the third attempt before even he was voted in HOF. Roger Maris won 2 MVP's, set biggest single season record of all time and he is not in HOF.
Verdict = He can play on my team anytime, borderline HOF'er after a few attempts. NO WAY first ballot.
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Sorry, but you could not be more wrong. Your looking year to year instead of an entire resume. Chipper Jones has hit over 450 home runs while batting over .300. Willie Stargell(first ballot) can't make that claim. Eddie Murray(first ballot) can't make that claim. He also comes in at 50 for all time OBP. Above Joe D. Above Rod Carew(first ballot). Above Joe Morgan(first ballot). Above Honus Wagner. And just above Rickey Henderson(first ballot). Mix in the likability of Chipper and you got yourself a first ballot. Plus as of yet no Roids.
In regards to your Joe D not being a first ballot remark. At the time they had a large backlog of players who deserved to be in the Hall, but weren't because the Hall wasn't around till 1939. Jimmie Foxx didn't get in until the sixth.