[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by irv

You do you, Peter, and I'll do me. How's that?

Eight people from the New York Yankees organization tested positive, despite having been fully vaccinated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/14/s...t-to-know.html

Family left with questions after Brampton senior's death.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ive-days-later

Langley-area man loses 2 metres of intestine after a blood clot following his AstraZeneca jab

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...fect-1.6027830

Some healthcare workers refuse to take COVID-19 vaccine, even with priority access.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...vaccine-access

I could list dozens more, and you know that, but what's the point as I'll just be called a conspiracy theorist and a strawman arguer or whatever other names you can come up with to shame me for pointing out the other side of the story that is rarely, if ever talked about, unless you look it up for yourself.

I have never denied that there have been adverse effects. That is true of virtually all medical treatments. People bleed to death from common over the counter medications, or suffer liver damage. You, on the other hand, have denied efficacy in the face of numerous published studies. So show me the evidence that the vaccines do not have the claimed efficacy.

The question here, the value judgment, is the balance of efficacy (seriouses illness prevented and lives saved) versus adverse effects. But one can only have that discussion based on the facts and the science, not agenda.