Using the Bill James HOF Statistical Ranking System puts a lot of emphasis on volume no matter how long it takes. Eddie Murray, Dave Winfield and Nolan Ryan are just three that benefit from it.
Even Harold Baines gets a higher rank due to the length of his career.
James had, in his Historical Abstracts, addressed this with Peak Value.
RJ is dominant from either perspective, but personally it's more impressive for a small guy to do it than a giant of a man.
Once again, Clemens like Bonds could have easily qualified as the best of their generation, and in many folks opinion, still are.
In my opinion, however, when the line between what was legit and what was not is blurred to the point where the actual Record Book is doubted, such an anointment is dubious at best.
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
By overstating the case for Pedro as the greatest ever.
Hall Of Fame StatisticsPlayer rank in (·)
Black Ink Pitching - 58 (19), Average HOFer ≈ 40
Gray Ink Pitching - 215 (31), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 206 (21), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 60 (16), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Starting Pitcher (21st), 84.0 career WAR/58.2 7yr-peak WAR/71.1 JAWS
COMPARED TO THE UNIT
Hall Of Fame StatisticsPlayer rank in (·)
Black Ink Pitching - 99 (6), Average HOFer ≈ 40
Gray Ink Pitching - 280 (14), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 331 (3), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 65 (12), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Starting Pitcher (9th), 102.1 career WAR/62.0 7yr-peak WAR/82.0 JAWS
Average HOF P (out of 62) = 73.9 career WAR/50.3 7yr-peak WAR/62.1 JAWS
COMPARED TO CLEMENS
Hall Of Fame StatisticsPlayer rank in (·)
Black Ink Pitching - 100 (5), Average HOFer ≈ 40
Gray Ink Pitching - 320 (7), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 332 (2), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 73 (5), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Starting Pitcher (3rd), 140.3 career WAR/66.3 7yr-peak WAR/103.3 JAWS
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