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Mattbarry - I agree it's very unscientific. My point is we know such sales exist, we also know that sellers would be making those sales for %5-%20 less then at auction since they'd be making the same profit, so that needs to be factored in somehow when using VCP as a price-list for non-auction sales. We can't just ignore all of those sales since we have no 100% accurate way of measuring them.