Pat- Thank you for your information on the vintage basketball pencil box thread I had on this site. The one you showed is spectacular! Pat and Everyone Else- Of the small Murads, which were issued first the second edition of the first series (see scans below) or the first printing (presumably of the second series (see second set of scans). I will try to pick up a first edition version of the Williams card, but because I have two right now, I am curious as to which of the two was issued first? Also, slightly off topic for this board, but is the athlete card (State Unniversity of Kentucky) thought to be a baseball player or just a generic athlete (I am guessing the latter). Thanks in advance for any help,Alan Elefsonaelefson@hotmail.com