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Old 05-27-2024, 10:27 AM
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Could anyone make an appropriate baseball card for this turd? Do I hear an Elf giggling in the bullrushes.
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Old 05-27-2024, 12:48 PM
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Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?
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Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?
This article covers it pretty well. You'll just miss out on all the arguing and opinions about what was done and what should have been done.

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Well, I was aware of net54 for years from a distance and stumbled onto this thread when looking for information about the theft. I kept abreast by reading all 900 posts (many of which felt like old lawyers trying to prove who’s smarter), and frankly found all of the information I needed. Then I go to check the pop on the cards they found, only to annoyingly see them deactivated. I asked a simple (maybe naive to some) question in here and was met by a variety of sarcasm. Obviously I could ask PSA, but I’m also bound to get a faster (and probably as accurate) answer here. All good, enjoy your next 30,000 posts…I’m probably done at 3.



p.s. don’t be so quick to alienate…your family will need people to buy all this stuff when you kick the bucket.
They were valid questions for someone making their first post. There are a lot of scammers that come on here making vague comments in order to get their post count up and build credibility.



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darren (jollyelm) came up with a pretty good prototype for a possible card in post # 908.

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Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?
  • There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
  • There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
  • Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
  • A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
  • At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
  • Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
  • 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
  • An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
  • That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.
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  • There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
  • There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
  • Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
  • A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
  • At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
  • Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
  • 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
  • An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
  • That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.
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Old 05-27-2024, 08:49 PM
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For anyone who won one of the cards that were stolen, were you able to purchase that card? I think only one member has said they won one of the stolen cards.

I do hope the two missing cards show up soon.
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Old 05-27-2024, 08:51 PM
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  • There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
  • There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
  • Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
  • A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
  • At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
  • Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
  • 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
  • An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
  • That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.
Is it a fact they couldn't locate the cards? Isn't it possible the police knew or suspected where the cards were and were waiting to make the bust?

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Old 05-27-2024, 08:57 PM
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Is it a fact they couldn't locate the cards? Isn't it possible the police knew or suspected where the cards were and were waiting to make the bust?

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And in turn, an expectancy that there was a good possibility of recovery may have informed ML's decision to continue the auction. Just speculating, but common sense would suggest there weren't that many suspects to begin with and they may well have had leads they were pursuing. You can't just go around kicking down people's doors.
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+1 Ericl
Well summarized, Eric. That's about right.


Within about a year or so after I got out of law school, or about 37 years ago, a question arose at the law firm about whether or not it would be a conflict of interest to accept a new client, due to already representing a similar client. I stayed quiet, my little opinion, had I had one, was about worthless. Some rather smart lawyers took turns talking, explaining various nuances of the ethics rules. Finally, this older lawyer who had grown up in a small rural county, and who up until now had been silent, leaned forward, cleared his throat, and said something to the effect of, "all I know is if you can't explain to the previous client why you did or didn't do something in about one sentence, then you probably shouldn't have done it."

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For anyone who won one of the cards that were stolen, were you able to purchase that card? I think only one member has said they won one of the stolen cards.
I do hope the two missing cards show up soon.
At least two, posts #29 and #931.
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I believe it's called "conjecture", counselor. From staring at screens in one's darkened basement, this board has plenty of it.
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Old 05-28-2024, 11:44 AM
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At least two, posts #29 and #931.
Ahh, thank you. Hopefully others will post their winnings once they receive.
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Well, I was aware of net54 for years from a distance and stumbled onto this thread when looking for information about the theft. I kept abreast by reading all 900 posts (many of which felt like old lawyers trying to prove who’s smarter), and frankly found all of the information I needed. Then I go to check the pop on the cards they found, only to annoyingly see them deactivated. I asked a simple (maybe naive to some) question in here and was met by a variety of sarcasm. Obviously I could ask PSA, but I’m also bound to get a faster (and probably as accurate) answer here. All good, enjoy your next 30,000 posts…I’m probably done at 3.

p.s. don’t be so quick to alienate…your family will need people to buy all this stuff when you kick the bucket.
Had a good laugh at this one - far too many people have been chased away from this forum by a bunch of old men yelling at clouds
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Had a good laugh at this one - far too many people have been chased away from this forum by a bunch of old men yelling at clouds
I firmly believe that is conducive to rain production.


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it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done
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Old 05-28-2024, 04:23 PM
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it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done
Looking at the mug shot, it appears this might be asking just a bit too much from him.

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Old 05-28-2024, 04:39 PM
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it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done
Quitting his job at the Best Western Plus was a huge red flag. Who in their right mind would do that unless they had a couple mil in assets socked away.
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Quitting his job at the Best Western Plus was a huge red flag. Who in their right mind would do that unless they had a couple mil in assets socked away.
He probably did have a couple of mil in his Best Western Plus 401K.
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Is this the same guy who robbed a Brinks truck about 15 years ago? Same name but allegedly had cleaned up his act. However same age, same state as this fellow.

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o further their alleged fraud scheme, Curcio ordered several items necessary to create forged card cases and labels to pass off the cards as graded, court documents allege.

They included plastic holders, thermal transfer barcode labels, a magnifier loupe optical glass, a handheld inkjet printer, a lock-cutting kit, an electric grinding pen, an abrasive buffer and polishing wheel, an abrasive and bristle brushes and drill bits designed for engraving, prosecutors said.

“Anthony Curcio and Iosif Bondarchuk carried out a brazen, nationwide fraud scheme involving valuable sports and Pokémon trading cards to deceive buyers and marketplaces, ultimately amassing over $2 million in fraudulent and attempted sales,” U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said in a statement. “Curcio and Bondarchuk allegedly sold and tried to sell at inflated prices cards of various professional athletes, including, among others, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Nolan Ryan, Larry Bird, Julius Erving, and Magic Johnson, as well as various valuable Pokémon cards.

Hmmmm.. I bet it's a lot more than $2 million if it went on for years.
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Is this the same guy who robbed a Brinks truck about 15 years ago? Same name but allegedly had cleaned up his act. However same age, same state as this fellow.
I think so. Made a side living giving inspirational speeches about learning from mistakes.
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I think so. Made a side living giving inspirational speeches about learning from mistakes.
He learned from his mistakes...he figured out he needed to take a different pathway to undeserved easy money.


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it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done
All he realistically would've needed was an unethical buyer with a deep wallet, its akin to stolen art, even if said buyer paid 20 cents on the dollar for the cards and knew they were stolen and couldn't really advertise they owned them, they get a bunch of monster cards for virtually free.
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All he realistically would've needed was an unethical buyer with a deep wallet, its akin to stolen art, even if said buyer paid 20 cents on the dollar for the cards and knew they were stolen and couldn't really advertise they owned them, they get a bunch of monster cards for virtually free.
But sooner or later the brain surgeon who quit his prestigious job at the Best Western Plus would talk too much, and the buyer would be looking at prison time for buying stolen goods.
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