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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: leon
Hey folks, |
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Posted By: Mike Williams
I may be missing something here but if SGC were to "authenticate" a card only....not assign it a grade, wouldn't this save them a step or two. Time is money right? Business case solved! Not to mention, collectors/dealers that have a bitter taste for "grading" companies may just opt for peace of mind "authentication". More justification to offer this service! This is a PERFECT opportunity for SGC ......I have personally asked Merkle this question (numerous times) a few years ago and got no response. The question I have for SGC (my favorite grading company by the way)....why wouldn't you do it? |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: leon
Derek will be reading this thread and has promised they will give the process serious thought if enough interest is generated....I forget what their business case was for NOT doing it but they did have one.....regards |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
Just got finished doing a 16 page business case here at the old job.........they could certainly use it as a competitive advantage since NONE of the other grading services offers this service. |
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Posted By: Marc S.
I can probably think of a dozen cards or so that I would want to get authenticated....However, it would most likely be a one-time thing with me, and not an on-going process... |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Although I might never use a service like this, it is definately an option I would like to have available. |
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Posted By: MW
edited |
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Posted By: Jay B
Anyone else having a problem to get the pics for nforj to load? I forget what pic host it is, but Scott Brockleman us it, and about half his pictures never show up when I look at his auctions |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: John
I have a few old judge cards that i know are trimmed and bought them knowing that,that i would like to get put in a holder......I know the cards are authentic but i like the look of the holders and i'd be more likely to send in my other old judges at the same time to get graded....John |
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Posted By: runscott
let me know how many sgc holders you need - I cracked 'em cleanly. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
but I only have 1 card the authenticity of which I question. I have a dozen which I'd like to know if they're trimmed or not. Maybe 20...Most of them are T206s. Some 19th century, too. |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: BcD
look at some of these ! it's ridiculous.....and now will probably get worse with PSA ! |
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Posted By: David
which card of yours is of questionable authenticity? |
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Posted By: Charlie
If you sent your cards to PSA you got an 8 no matter if they were 9's or 10's...and you had to pay a 99.00 fee to join to get those 8's. With SGC you get a fair deal....PERIOD!!!! No extra fees!!! SGC is the best grader... No Doubt!!! Nicest holder too!!! No BS They just are... |
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Posted By: MW
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: HalleyGator
PLEASE CLARIFY .... |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: leon
MW- went back and looked a little closer and here are my thoughts on the cards you listed....the Mantle- corners too soft for an 8....the '40 Jackson- corners too soft.....the other 2 pic's won't come up......ok I was sleepy yesterday and didn't look hard enough....I am not sure about the centering problems you listed since the pic's didn't happen but my thinking is that a 9 should be at least 60-40 all the way around......again, just my thoughts......Halley- As far as trimmed cards being slabbed....not sure...I think that would be open for debate...my first thought is NO....but my second thought could be YES....actually though I think I am more concerned with a card being trimmed than actually fake....not to say I have not bought 2 fake cards but they are quite readily identified and dealt with....trimming, altering, touching up, and adding paper are different stories......I think I would vote that if the card were doctored in any way I would not slab it....Say I have a card that is a high dollar card but low grade and I just want to know if it has been doctored. I know it is going to get a 10-20 so I don't care about the grade. If it came back as authentic I could know that it most likely was not altered. I know you love PSA but I am seeing more problems with them all of the time.....and I have nothing to gain or lose by saying that.....best regards again |
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Posted By: Tom
if you don't slab cards that have been trimmed, rebacked, missing parts, re-colored or other things as 'authentic' then what would we slab as such? I think that it would be good to slab them with the reason for the 'authentic' grade listed. They're entombed (for a while.....till Scott or Tbob cracks them) with what the reason that there was no assigned grade. Still in a nice holder with black insert and slabbed as 'authentic' while rebacked (my OJ Anson). Now.....debate as to if 'authentic' could be given for anything that has something added to it--such as color or paper--backing or for rebuilding corners might be valid (the debate that is). Maybe anything rebacked or colored or with paper added couldn't get the 'authentic' designation but I would DEFINITELY want trimmed cards to be slabbed as such. Just comments from the peanut gallery........... |
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Posted By: runscott
I would like to see an "authentic" grade for anything that is a real card, with qualifiers for anything that's been done to it, and NO NUMERIC GRADE. The understanding for cards graded as "authentic" with tampering qualifiers could be that there may be additional tampering that hasn't been picked up by the "authenticator" - for instance, tack holes that have been repaired nicely may not always be noticed, although I understand a black light can catch those. |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: Lee Behrens
i have had quite a few correspondences lately with different people at SGC and brought up the question about authenticating. I think with some more encouragement that they might do it soon. |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: leon
Since I am one of the novices on the board (although an "avid" novice) I don't see the big glaring problems with the cards. I believe I could tell more by seeing them in person though. The corners of a few don't look like "8"'s but that is about it.... |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: David
I think that the idea authenticating 'ungradable' cards is a good idea, under the assumption that they do an accurate job. 'Beleived to be Authentic-- extensive restoration' or 'Beleived to be Authentic-- trimmed' sound like resonable descriptions. |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: leon
I agree with you but they do offer a "money" related guarantee with their expert opinion....so while it is an opinion it is an opinion with a foundation of recourse.......not sure if the autograph guys do that.....regards |
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Just spoke with Derek Grady-SGC
Posted By: David
Leon, I was not singling out SGC (firstly, they're not the company with 'authentic' in their name), and agree that a money back guarantee is worthwhile. But 'authentic' is an absolute term--, so saying "This is authentic or your money back" makes no sense to me. A resonable substitute, in particular when applied to esoteric material, might say, "Beleived to be authentic" or "In our opinion, this card is authentic, and this is why ....." |
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