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Posted By: steve f
Spent a few hours this AM at a Department 9-11 service honoring the firefighters. As usual, many residents in town had stopped by with food and drink. It was well attended, but less grieving and I dare say a little joyous. Different from our past annual Never Forget functions. It appears we're finally beginning to heal. |
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Posted By: leon
I watched a special this evening about flight 93, and several news shows today, covering the tragic event. Very sad to hear lot's of the stories. Not sure how political we want to get here but I hope we find Bin Laden and nuke him..... We should never forget 9/11...may all those that lost their lives rest in peace.... |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Leon |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Thanks for posting this. I can vividly remember on the first anniversary having to pull my car over to the side of the road to wipe away a tear or two. Something i will certainly never forget. May God bless all those individuals and their families who were affected by this. Time will do its healing and America will be stronger for it. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I had a friend who quit her job working for a company that had offices in the North tower on the 93rd floor a week before the attack. She lost a lot of friends that day. I also knew one of the people that died on flight 93. |
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Posted By: Jason
I was surprised at how hard it hit home again this year. The media coverage is just overwhelming, which is good for those that can be enlightened, but also makes for a much tougher day for someone who was there. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I saw the towers burning from the top floor of my building, as I live only a mile away. I remember the eerie silence and trying to imagine what was going on in that moment as the smoke billowed out. Walking around my neighborhood that day the sky was a complete haze. Small bits of paper fell into our front and back yards, remnants that had blown across the East River into Brooklyn. My wife and I went to the hospital down the street from us and sat there all day signing up volunteers who wanted to donate blood or help in any way they could. We anticipated the hospital would be swarming with patients coming in who needed medical attention, but almost nobody was admitted. Either you survived the attack unharmed or you were lost. I will never forget that day. My greatest fear is that something equally insidious may happen again. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Steve F. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
I thought I'd go back as far as this board could go and I got to page 251 and it was for Sept 13, 2001. No real mention of the towers I could see immediately. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I saw the second tower collapse from my office window. I was so shocked at what I saw that I had to turn on the TV to see if it really happened. That long walk back home on streets filled with equally bewildered New Yorkers, occasionally joined by someone covered in ash, was funereal and mostly silent. The only thing nice about that disaster was how New York really came together for a few days. Everyone was friendly and caring towards each other, even on the subways. I could smell the burning of the rubble for days from my apt 70 blocks north of the towers. I have one memory that really stuck out that I've never shared before, which really explained a lot to me: a day or so later a kid about 18 or so who looked to be very poor and angry was riding his bicycle on the street and saying at the top of his lungs that some more planes were coming out of the sky and we should all watch out. He was basically rooting for the terrorists because he felt so disenfranchised and left out and apparently identified more with them than us. |
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Posted By: Jason
because if that is really the case - that 35% of Americans think it was the govt or that it didn't happen??? if that's true, then this country is truly full of idiots. Profoundly dumb people who apparently have far too much free time on their hands! |
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Posted By: Joe D.
I was just blocks away and had all too good of a view of what was happening. I still remember the sites, sounds, the smell, and the taste in my throat. I was in the city until about midnight that night (bridges tunnels closed... I drive to work) - and the street my office is on was the street used by emergency vehicles. I heard the sounds of sirens in my head for weeks. |
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Posted By: JimB
Jason, |
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Posted By: jay behrens
There is lots controvaersy still surrounding the Pentagon attack. Not one camera showing the explosion shows an airplane hitting the building. There is also no pieces of debris that you expect to find if a large plane hit building. The damage that was done is more that of a large missle than a large plane. There also the curious fact that this was basically an untrained pilot who was able to fly a large plane just feet off the ground before hitting the building. The angle of entry was almost paralell to the ground. |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
I watched CNN Pipeline all day yesterday; they rebroadcast their 9/11 coverage in real-time, starting at 8:30 AM. I was struck by how different the world was then, and how quickly it changed - when the second plane hit the second tower, the reporter was speculating that there must be something wrong with the airplanes' navigation systems and they were steering them all right to the WTC. Today, if thunder sounds weird, people wonder if it was a bomb. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Hey Jay B. |
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Posted By: leon
I have to agree with you. Edited to be the kinder, gentler Leon...I did go on the attack at Jay B. for insinuating there wasn't a flight that hit the Pentagon...I'll just say that there was..... |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Jason |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- yes, in baseball one out of three is excellent. But in politics, if one out of three support the policies of our administration, that is strictly Bush league, pun intended. |
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Posted By: Jason
Joe D, my experience was very similar to what you write...the sirens would ring in my head every night and wake me up...I threw all my clothes away because I couldn't have them in the house...it all rings quite true. I don't think I actually took a full breath for 4 months... |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Ted, there is no doubt the Towers were hit by planes. As I said, since there is a plane mising, that is most likely what hit the Pentagon, but there a whole of things about the Pentagon attack that don't add up. The biggest being not a single security video being able to capture the plane on tape before it hit the building, yet there are at least two angles that should have shown the plane as it hit the building. I do know and understand what while happen to a plane when it hits a building at that speed. All you have to do is look at the planes that hit the Towers and you can see LARGE chunks of plane that passed thru the building. There whould a fair amount of large debris, especially from the tail section. I just keep an open mind to other possibilities, becuase I trust the Bush admistration about as far as I can throw one of planes that hit the Towers. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw an amateur video of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Somebody standing some distance from the building shot it on a hand held camera. Does anyone else remember seeing this, or am I just imagining it? |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
1st.....BARRY....I really don't want to discuss politics with you....I value our 23 year |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Hi Ted- I know we get in trouble when we discuss politics, but I would still like to just get in one quick comment and leave it at that- whatever spin you put on the one out of three number, it's tough to view our current president as popular and well respected. I think Americans are very unhappy with the state of the country right now, myself included. And I will say no more. And we're still friends, of course. |
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Posted By: joe brennan
THE GOLDEN RULE FOR FRIENDSHIP AND BUSINESS. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
youtube.com and search for pentagon. About the 3rd or 4th video shows SOMETHING hitting the ground a few feet short of the Pentagon and then skidding into the building, causing the explosion. Folks like Jay and the other theory conspiracists will say it's a Tomahawk missle or something but most folks believe it was an aircraft. |
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Posted By: Josh Adams
My only comment on the topic is that for some, it may seem more comforting (in what way, I don't know how), to think that only the government could have pulled this off, instead of 19 terrorists with boxcutters, which in reality, is the real horror. |
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Posted By: PC
Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. No doubt about it. Here is just one of many good articles on the subject: |
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Posted By: barrysloate
PC- to put it another way, four planes took off on 9/11 that never landed safely. If two hit the towers and one crashed in Pennsylvania, where was the fourth one other than hitting the Pentagon? If it didn't hit there, then it is unaccounted for. Not very likely. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Thanks....Tom B....Josh A....PC |
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Posted By: barrysloate
That's pretty interesting. Do you mean to say that kids today really don't believe 9/11 happened? Do they believe the holocaust happened? Obviously, I am out of touch with what goes on at colleges these days. I guess it is fashionable and cool to take a crazy position on things. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
BARRY |
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Posted By: barrysloate
That is really shocking and disheartening and for Jewish parents to be so negligent is inexcusable. |
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Posted By: Troy
Barry and Ted, |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Thanks Troy for that information. |
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Posted By: JimB
Speaking of being "re-elected" (Don't you have to be elected first to be re-elected?), it seems funny that Kerry won by a landslide in ALL of the exit polls and then lost the computer count. I believe a statistician cited in Harpers put the odds of that sort of turn around at 10,000,000 to 1. Hmmm. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Here is the conspracy theory video: |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Jim - I'm sorry but if you really believe that the 2004 election was some kind of conspiracy then you have gone WAY off the deep end. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
JimB |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- please don't blame the media for the ills of the world. They are just the messengers. And Florida in 2000- I think we disagree again. But we still are definitely friends, right? Even though Gore won the election in 2000, I am willing to forgive and forget. Life goes on. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Guys, let's keep this on topic - which is more important than the 04 election or anything else. The one thing we can all agree upon: Islamic fundamentalists killed 3000 Americans in cold blood. My anger over this increases by the day. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I agree Jeff. Some of these more thought provoking threads tend to digress, and you are right that we are losing direction. Someone just posted that net54 celebrated its 5th anniversary. That means we were born just two days after 9/11. How could anybody even think baseball cards under those circumstances? I guess it's just an example of life has to go on. |
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Posted By: JimB
Ted, |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Is it 2008 yet? |
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Posted By: leon
It's amazing how some other things can happen and be overshadowed by that day. I was 40 on Sept 5th, 2001.....which would have seemed ok, since 9/11 was a few days away. However, my mother in law passed away on August 23, leaving my wife an orphan with her only sibling passing away many years ago. They were extremely close. She/we were so devastated by that loss that 9/11 just added to the shock we were already in....somehow, I think that will be one of my worst birthdays ever..(*of course there was no celebrating). Yesterday I saw a car that said 40 B'day on the windows....and I was sad all over again....such is life. As Burdick said, to paraphrase, "Our cards can take us to places, away from ordinary life, and give solitude, not normally found".....which, many times, is good.....Never forget 9/11..... |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Leon, wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who said that?...kidding aside, nobody who lived through 9/11 ever will forget it. It will however, become part of history, and as time passes we can only wonder how the event will be viewed by future generations. Somehow history has a way of taking strange turns. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
JASON |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Ted and others- if you want to hear something scary check this out: I was reading an article online about that charming fellow who shot 20 people on a Montreal Campus yesterday. The article mentioned that he liked to play an online video game called "Super Columbine Massacre." How disturbing is it that such a video game even exists! |
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Posted By: Jason
yikes...I guess America really changed after that 1950s quiz show scandal, huh? |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I'll accept the fact that people are angry with the government (count me in on that group); and I don't doubt the U.S. might have wanted a war in the middle east; but to say that the government was complicit in the 9/11 attacks is psychotic. |
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