O/T Insects in Cleveland

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Posted By: Ed Ivey

Has a game ever been called for insect invasion? Something out of Hitchcock.

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Posted By: brock

I'm watching the game and its bad that they evan made Chamberlain pitch. He was covered in bugs. The bugs made him so he cant throw a good strike and the yankees may lose because of this BS. Worest thing MLB and Umps did this year, game should have been delayed after the 7th. And to back up my chamberlain thing because of the bugs. He comes in and throws all but a couple balls in the 7th and in the 8th cant throw a strike. Total BS i think.

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Posted By: OnlyBaloney

Is this a pre-war question?
That is: the War of the Worlds.

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Posted By: Ed Ivey

If Larry Lajoie had to deal with it, then yes, we can mold it into a pre-war question.

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Posted By: JB

TRULY

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Forget Hitchcock. More like something out of the bible.

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Posted By: Eric Brehm

I did notice that the insects were attacking the Yankees fiercely but mostly leaving the Indians alone...

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Joba once played for the Bugeaters so that may explain it.

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Posted By: David Smith

WHINE. WHINE. WHINE.

The team with the highest payroll in baseball barely makes it into the Post Season, are down 1 game to none to Cleveland and are tied in the second game and their fans are complaining about bugs.

If the Yankees DON'T make it to the second round, I can hear it now. It was the bugs fault the Yankees lost the series and NOT the bad pitching or lack of hitting.

One question, are the bugs on the field when Cleveland is playing Defense?? If so, then the Yankees and their fans have NOTHING to complain about. BOTH teams are having to play under the same conditions and circumstances.

If you want to complain and moan about something, try putting yourself in the shoes of "small market" teams. Teams that can't buy an All-Star line-up and who DON'T make it to the Post Season year after year. When and if you ever do that, then I might have some sympathy for you but until then, I don't and wont.

David

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Yes, funny how the insects "plagued" poor Chamberlain but backed off of Carmona.

David, if you had been listening to windbag John Sterling, as I have, you'd believe Chamberlain was being beseiged by wasps the size of softballs. He did allow as to how Carmona didn't seem to be bothered by the critters.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

David, first of all it's 2-0.

Second, small market teams like the Twins (owner is a multi-billionaire) or the Dodgers (cheap ownership)?

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Posted By: Mark T

Yankee fan excuse....deal with it, both teams have bugs.


SOX WILL WIN WORLD SERIES!!!!!!

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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

There are certainly bugs on the Yankees now...I believe they are flies!

Patrick

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Posted By: Joe D.

The bug situation was ridiculous - and it effected the game. But those are the breaks. The Indians handled it better - and they played a better game of baseball.

If you say the bugs didn't effect the game you are one of these three -
-blind
-biased
-blind and biased


It was actually tough to watch. Pretty disgusting with them flying in Jabas eyes and mouth and neck.

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Posted By: Corey R. Shanus

I don't think the postseason should be decided on which team best handles an insect infestation. Let's say its the Indians. Great...but so what? Games are halted due to extreme weather conditions on the rationale that it is not appropriate to have to play through them; why should this be different?

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

This game certainly wasn't a good advertisement for OFF Bug Spray. Joba had it sprayed all over him and the bugs were swarming all over him like they couldn't get enough of it.

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Posted By: Marc S.

how much worse the bugs looked in High Definition.

That said -- I remember April as being particularly cold for quite a few teams....and definitely certain team's April performance impacted their ability to make it to the postseason (or not). As such -- outside conditions will always affect the game. Whether it is the postseason, the games leading up to the postseason, or something else... you can't cherry pick which issues are suddenly important and which ones aren't.

I'm a die hard Phillies phan, and think it is ridiculous for any team to play a baseball game at Citizens Bank at 3 p.m., given the shadows. But that is how TV runs the postseason schedule -- and it just needs to be dealt with. Que sera sera.

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Posted By: Fred C

Well with global warming here we can expect winters to last through summer and the fall classic to be played in muggy hot buggy weather...

Just kidding...

All things being equal - both teams had to deal with the bugs.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Its in Yankees fans blood to whine. Anything that happens towards them whether it actually happened or John Sterling just made it up,they will cry about. Im surrounded by them where i live and it pains me to listen to them. You would think they would be happy that they make the playoffs all the time. They are some of the most annoying people when their team wins too, its like rooting for the Harlem Globetrotters then throwing it in someones face when they win.

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Posted By: anthony

i actually saw a bunch of bugs conspiring to attack joba...i wouldnt say they were severe enough to stop the game, teams have played in heavy rain before and this is no different. had they carried off a bat or something, then i'd call for the rulebook.


go red sox!

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Hey, John-- looks like I'll be breaking out that t-shirt again, soon.

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Posted By: James Feagin

Well, the Yankees stole an ALCS game in 97 against the Orioles, it's about time one is taken from them. All though Jeff Maier was A LOT more aggregious.

James

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Posted By: Clint

Thanks James. I was thinking the same thing.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Yankee fans are tough to stomach, no doubt (Ted and Joe D excluded - cough, cough )

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Posted By: James Feagin

Rooting for the Yankees is like pulling for Wal-Mart in a game against the sisters of the poor. Although to their credit, the majority are far more knowledgable than the adherents of "Red Sox" ahem....."Bandwagon Nation"

James

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Posted By: CN

They migrated from Shea in the first inning when Tom Glavine killed my season Sunday. CN

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Posted By: Rob Dewolf

Boo. Hoo. Hoo.

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Posted By: howard

Since he has been mentioned a couple of times in this thread I would just like to say that the majority of Yankee fans I know (including myself) cannot stand John Sterling. Listening to Sterling and Suzyn Waldman doing a game is excruciating. They are neither knowledgeable or interesting but they do have extraordinarily annoying voices.

Joba is like the aliens in "War of the Worlds". He is unbeatable against big league hitters but falls apart when confronted with insects.

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Posted By: Cat (ret.)

Patrick wrote: "There are certainly bugs on the Yankees now...I believe they are flies!"

Funniest line this week!!!

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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

As a Yankee fan, I'd like to go on record as saying the only reason the Indians were able to steal the first two cames is that they have better pitching, better hitting, more heart, and less ego than the Yankees. That, plus no A-Rod.

Also, they're a team, not some Frankensteinish amalgam of overpaid octogenarian arms with plenty of youthful legs, all attached to a heartless but muscular trunk with a number 13 on the back of its jersey. Joe Torre is the perfect face for this monster. His actual face, I mean.

Other than that...yeah, it was definitely the bugs.

-Ryan

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Posted By: Bill Cornell

4 days in Cleveland this summer and I was not once overwhelmed by a hoard of non-biting bugs. Whew.

Get some hits and the insects aren't quite so bothersome.



Bill

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Posted By: ROBERT ADAMS JR

Which is more difficult , throwing a 95 MPH fast ball with bugs on ya or hitting one ?

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Posted By: joe

Didn't get to see the game, hope the Yankees lost though.

Joe

Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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Posted By: Greg Theberge

"Rooting for the Yankees is like pulling for Wal-Mart in a game against the sisters of the poor. Although to their credit, the majority are far more knowledgable than the adherents of "Red Sox" ahem....."Bandwagon Nation"

James"

I wrote something longer, read it, then deleted the whole thing. It's well past midnight and the game is still going on...

I would guess that Jim isn't watching baseball right now.

"Bandwagon Nation" .... how simply cute. If you tell me your hat size, Jim, I'll buy you one of those pink hats we Sox fans love to wear. I'll refrain from any further comment other than saying the above is yet another classic post on Network54.

Do people really not give a damn about offending other people on here? I have to tell you, it's really hard to not type how one really wants to reply to crap like this.

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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

A 4-pitch walk and two wild pitches from a guy who mowed the Indians down in the prior inning would tell me it's tougher to pitch when you're covered with bugs.

Yes, both teams had to deal with it. But the Yankees had a 1-0 lead that disintigrated, in my opinion, as a direct result of the bugs. If those bugs were rain, the umps would have delayed the game. That's what they should have done.

Cleveland is a better team, and I expect them to win. And they flirted with danger for the first 7 innings and lucked out every time. But that was the Yankees' game.

-Al

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Posted By: Eric Brehm

Bugs and team loyalties aside, it was great to see a playoff game where the score remained close throughout. It is remarkable how much strategy comes into play when the home team has the winning run on base in the bottom of the ninth or later inning. Great stuff.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

If the Bronx fans can laud the kid who stole the homer run against the Orioles in 1996, I can turn a deaf ear to their complaints of bug cheating.

I saw a player (Rob Deer?) get a strike when he moved his bat at a bee when the ball was thrown.

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Posted By: Greg Theberge

To my friend, Jim

It's 12:45 in the freakin morning and I just witnessed 35,000 + of your stupid ignorant Red Sox fans witness a Ramirez walk off home run over the Monsta. You can call us all the names in the world, pal, but you're missing out on a lot of life's enjoyment if all you have to do is whine about other people.

Bring on the bugs baby!

Nuf Ced

Edited to include that NOBODY left that ballpark until the game was over

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Posted By: joe

David, Rob Deer?
He was with the Tigers and he struck out a lot. No bugs.
Joe

Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

MANNY!!!!

Yes, I'm another one of those ignorant, bandwagon Red Sox fans!!!!

Glad I jumped on the bandwagon in '75.....

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Posted By: davidcycleback

Joe, Sparky Anderson's voiced theory was that when Deer was striking out, he wasn't hitting into double plays.

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Posted By: Bill Cornell

The Yankees rarely go down easily and the Sox like to torture me, so I'm not going to get overly excited about the current status.

BTW, first game I saw at Fenway was in July '74 - John Mayberry hit a grand slam and the Royals won 12-1. I'm still bitter.



Bill

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Posted By: Rob L

I still have to believe (although maybe not this year):

Angels Rule, BoSox Drool!

Rob L

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Posted By: ROBERT ADAMS JR

Gotta love Carmona being swarmed but still hammering A-Rod !

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Posted By: Bob

The weirdest thing was how the Canadian soldiers (type of bugs) swarmed the players and umps but didn't seem to bother a single fan.
If the varmints played a part in the Injuns winning, then maybe it is finally time for the Lake Erieans to win a series again. Been a long time...

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Posted By: Joe D.

Bob
thats so true.
the fans didn't even look like they were bothered.

Al C
Very well said!

Robert Adams Jr
As far as what is more difficult - pitching with the bugs, or hitting with the bugs... I would say the pitchers mound looked a lot worse than the batters box. And, the batters were able to wear helmets. So, pitching was definitely tougher.

Greg T and Rob D -
'It aint over till its over'
Lets see how Cleveland does in the Bronx - I say this is going to a game 5 back in Cleveland.


Jeff L
Don't get me started on Met fans -- yourself and barry excluded of course - (cough).

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Posted By: Greg Theberge

Joe,

I have to admit, Cleveland scares the hell out of me and I've been a Sox fan for too long to think the Sox have it in the bag either in this series, or, hopefully, the next.

Aint October great?

Greg

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Posted By: Kevin Andrews

I was at the game last night and the bugs didn't bother any one in the crowd. As a matter of fact growing next to Lake Erie I know there were certain times of the year that the things would absolutely cover the sides of building and houses, usually on the North face. Kinda of ironic that the visiting team (Yankees) dug-out at Jacob's field faces North. The things are supposedly attracted to light and moisture and bug spray doesn't help and actually makes the moisture problem worse. (You didn't see the Indians player using any kind of spray at all.) October is certainly a very strange time of year for this to happen. My recollection is that it's usually mid-summer. HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE - I'LL TAKE IT EVERY TIME. INDIANS IN 3!!!!!

Yankees Payroll > $200 Million

Indians Payroll < $50 Million

A-Rod, Jeter, Matsui,
Posada = 1 for 32; a
few bugs; listening to
the Yankee nation whine - PRICELESS

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Posted By: peter ullman

Gene Monahan should have 100% deet in his bag of tricks...so it's his fault...fire him!

pete in mn

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Posted By: Rob Dewolf

Joe D.,

You're 100 percent correct: It's not over.

I didn't intend for my comment to imply the series is finished. It was more a reaction to the theories/excuses/whining of some Yankees fans that the loss had more to do with conditions on the field than the play of their team.

I should have stated it better. I think I was pre-occupied by trying to figure out how the bugs were able to distract Chamberlain so much but barely fazed Carmona. Come to think of it, I'm still trying to figure that out.

If those bugs were rain, the umps would have delayed the game.

And if pop-ups and strikeouts were home runs, A-rod would be the front-runner for the series' MVP right now.

Rob