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Old 09-06-2022, 10:39 AM
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Can anyone provide any insight as to who or what this card might be?

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Old 09-06-2022, 10:58 AM
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...-- Can you provide any information about the circumstances of its discovery.?
.--Everything you know , to give us Charley Chan aficionados a starting point. Great photo by the way ; your phone's going to be ringing off the hook.

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Old 09-06-2022, 11:03 AM
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...-- Can you provide any information about the circumstances of its discovery.?
.--Everything you know , to give us Charley Chan aficionados a starting point. Great photo by the way ; your phone's going to be ringing off the hook.

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My late Father-in-law was a life long collector and part-time dealer. This was in his safe. Unfortunately, I have nothing more. He lived in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia so most of his buys were in PA, MD and VA. Not that is might not be from somewhere else but that was the area he frequented.

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Old 09-06-2022, 11:59 AM
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My late Father-in-law was a life long collector and part-time dealer. This was in his safe. Unfortunately, I have nothing more. He lived in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia so most of his buys were in PA, MD and VA. Not that is might not be from somewhere else but that was the area he frequented.


.. now , we just need to research that area , in that era , for any team , city , or school or company or fraternal organization , with the financial means to support a team ( note the quality of the uniform and that mitt ) which has those letters in their name. Someone on here will get back to you by late Sunday evening. That bat is a great start , also. There are talents on this forum for whom this quest will be a walk in the park , a piece of cake , a mere bagatelle .

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Old 09-06-2022, 12:29 PM
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Total guess based on the lettering on the jersey... Berlin. There is a Berlin, WV, for what it's worth.
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Old 09-06-2022, 12:32 PM
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.. now , we just need to research that area , in that era , for any team , city , or school or company or fraternal organization , with the financial means to support a team ( note the quality of the uniform and that mitt ) which has those letters in their name. Someone on here will get back to you by late Sunday evening. That bat is a great start , also. There are talents on this forum for whom this quest will be a walk in the park , a piece of cake , a mere bagatelle .

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Do you have any idea on the last letter?
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Old 09-06-2022, 12:56 PM
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Do you have any idea on the last letter?

.. I'm thinking there's 4 letters before the " R ", ; based on the size of the other letters.

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.. I'm thinking there's 4 letters before the " R ", ; based on the size of the other letters.

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How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073

EDIT: Edit to add mention of Oberlin's interesting place in history as an early stop in Moses Fleetwood Walker's career.
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I keep wanting to put Carlisle in there but the last letter we can see doesn't quite make an S.
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How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073
Very possible.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:47 PM
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looks like guy second from left...

https://www.alamy.com/the-ista-ber-o...1&searchtype=0
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Wow. Oberlin College is 30 minutes from Bluffton, OH.
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[QUOTE=chadeast;2261063]How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073

. So the letters O , B , and E can readily be on the uniform's unseen side , and a scrunched up N is not a bad guess for the mystery of that last letter.

.. Now to assign a time period to the bat and mitt., and style of cabinet . Can you put up a scan of the back ? Might help.

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Old 09-06-2022, 04:49 PM
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How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073

. So the letters O , B , and E can readily be on the uniform's unseen side , and a scrunched up N is not a bad guess for the mystery of that last letter.

.. Now to assign a time period to the bat and mitt., and style of cabinet . Can you put up a scan of the back ? Might help.

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I don't have it in hand at the moment. It's at my MILs home. I didn't get a pic of the back because it was just plain cardboard (to my eye anyway).
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I have access to a website called EYearbooks which has school yearbooks for many colleges. This is the Oberlin baseball team as depicted in the 1910 volume. The uniform sported by the mystery battery is similar in some regards, different in others. 1910 was just a semi-wild guess on my part. If anybody has a better idea what year the picture was taken I'll take a further look.
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Could it be Livingstone?

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Old 09-06-2022, 07:19 PM
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Aloha, David!

Seems to me that Oberlin is the likely name on that jersey.

Great team picture, you guys are pretty good at sorting stuff out.
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Great job David!!...Jerry
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:33 PM
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You all are quite amazing. I figure at this rate I'll be talking to his great-grandchild by the weekend.
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Wilcox is a name I would check on!
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Aloha, David!

Seems to me that Oberlin is the likely name on that jersey.

Great team picture, you guys are pretty good at sorting stuff out.
Aloha back to you, Frank. Hope all is well down Kentucky way. Here in British Siberia I've got some serious old-age shit going on. My head is bloody but unbowed.

I picked the year 1910 just for somewhere to start. It could have been taken years before or years after. Plenty of folks here have a better eye at conjecturing the date than I do. Would be interested to know the best guess. The 1910 team picture had some similarities in the uniform and some discrepancies. Probably is Oberlin but no smoking gun. If the ears fit you must acquit but I don't think Livingstone is the guy.
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I have access to a website called EYearbooks which has school yearbooks for many colleges. This is the Oberlin baseball team as depicted in the 1910 volume. The uniform sported by the mystery battery is similar in some regards, different in others. 1910 was just a semi-wild guess on my part. If anybody has a better idea what year the picture was taken I'll take a further look.
That's awesome, David. Thanks for the assist on this.
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Wilcox is a name I would check on!
I must have missed this post. Who is Wilcox?
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I must have missed this post. Who is Wilcox?
If I am correct he played for Oberlin...and looks a lot like your fellow!
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If I am correct he played for Oberlin...and looks a lot like your fellow!
What year?
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