PSA Ticket submission question

[Jetsfan]

Hi,

I am predominantly a vintage baseball card collector, but I hope you will allow me to ask for your expertise on submitting a non-sports ticket to PSA. It's a ticket to Andrew Johnson's impeachment trial in 1868. Tickets including the stub are fairly uncommon. I already submitted it in the same holder as I received it. PSA is sending it back as a N9 grade. When I called them, they said it was too fragile to slab. I'm thinking it was because the ticket was secured too tightly in the case shown in the photos below, secured on the sides with staples. The PSA rep suggested resubmitting in a holder that would be easier for PSA to remove the ticket from. I was thinking of sending it back secured in a plastic bag in which the ticket would fit well (then covered tightly on both sides by cardboard for shipping. PSA should have no trouble removing it.

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions to maximize my chances of getting this slabbed. Not looking for a number grade. Just want it authenticated and protected in the holder.

Thanks so much

Adam

[bigfanNY]

Yes the holder dose not meet PSA standards. How big is the ticket? Looks smaller than a postcard. If it is then a postcard penny sleeve and a # 4 card saver sleeve should do the trick. If not then match up the correct penny sleeve and cardsaver case and you should be fine.

PSA says in submission notes that they dont even like hard cases. So something stapled, is just never gonna work for them.
Can I ask why you didn't remove it from the stapled plastic. Is it so fragile you worried it would get damaged if you handled it. If so then my suggestion might need to be modified. I have handled tickets that literally crumbled from being stored poorly. I remember a 1946 Stags ticket that came apart in 4 pices after I took it out of paper envelope it was in. Paper that old esp paper used for a ticket was generally of high quality. But any paper stored poorly can deteriorate over time.

[Jetsfan]

Hi Jonathan,

I didn’t remove it because it seemed secure the way it was shipped, and as a novice submitting tickets, I wasn’t really thinking about how PSA would get the ticket out. But thank you for the submission suggestion.

Adam

[Jewish-collector]

If there's no urgency, take it to a paper show like this one and ask those dealers how they would do it.

https://www.allentownpapershow.com/

[doug.goodman]

Staple removers are complex pieces of equipment.

With the average time that this particular opinion seller spends on an item being discussed in another thread as around 38 seconds, I can see why they didn't want to get themselves into a situation involving complex equipment.

Jetsfan : welcome to net54, our version of Fantasy Island. If you are read enough of my posts you will learn quickly that I seldom write in any other than the sarcasm font.

Doug "but at least I didn't cuss this time" Goodman

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Staple removers are complex pieces of equipment.

With the average time that this particular opinion seller spends on an item being discussed in another thread as around 38 seconds, I can see why they didn't want to get themselves into a situation involving complex equipment.

Jetsfan : welcome to net54, our version of Fantasy Island. If you are read enough of my posts you will learn quickly that I seldom write in any other than the sarcasm font.

Doug "but at least I didn't cuss this time" Goodman

I nearly lost a finger using a staple remover! Close call.

FPSA.

[swarmee]

PSA would have likely sliced it out of the case with an X-acto knife. However, I think the "Fragile" issue is that the stub is nearly separated. So even if you submit in the appropriately sized cardsaver, they may still not take the risk of slabbing the entire piece due to the odds that the stub falls off during the process.