Opinions Wanted

[MK]

Would love to hear pennant collectors opinions on this ebay listing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-Antique...item1c342e796c

[Leon]

I am not really a pennant collector but do have a few felts and associated items. That is a beautiful pennant and the seller is very experienced. It will be interesting to see where it ends in price.

[slidekellyslide]

Without provenance that's just another pennant to me. He gives zero back story for it...where was it found? Were there any accompanying items to explain that this really is a Negro League pennant?

It was not uncommon for organizations of all types to use that type of lettering layed over one another for a logo.

I doubt there is any provenance at all otherwise it would have been added to the auction info.

[sayhey24]

I agree that without provenance, it could be anything. Those are three pretty common letters -- any athletic club that starts with a B would be BAC.
Also, the pennant is not a match for any of the other logos shown. Some are similar, but not the same.

Greg

[william_9]

Could also be B____ Agricultural College. That would make sense too with the '13 on it. Beautiful pennant but too many possibilities. Also, being a felt applique, which takes a lot of time to make, I can more easily see it being a class or athletic club pennant than a retail souvenir. Maybe I'm wrong, but most souvenir pennants are screened or stenciled, not sewn.

[Shoeless Moe]

The 1st seller called it something completely different

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-ABC-Cla...#ht_212wt_1429

The buyer and now 2nd seller of it is gonna make a bundle from the story he has attached to it.

[tcornett]

The logos on the pennant do not even match the logos on the pictures that are provided on the hats and jersey. The top and bottom of the A and the ends of the C are different.

Also, they are comparing it to other sales that realized 8k and above. If they really thinks it is real and should be compared to these items, why is it starting it at 14.99 without reserve?

When I see thing that are compared to very expensive items with a very low starting bid, I am naturally suspicious that the seller really believes they have a real item.


Just my thoughts when I saw this.

Tim

[Leon]

It looks like it might go fairly high. That's too bad. If ebay still showed bidders they could be alerted to this thread. Wishful thinking..

[Duluth Eskimo]

Rhys is right on the money and, as usual, is making good points. No way this would be for a negro league team.

[Shoeless Moe]

While the seller does find some good diamonds in the rough, this not being one of them, you can view his buys here on ebay b4 he puts them up for sale:

ebay seller id: djmaus


I wish I had the time to re-sell as much as he does, he actually led me to find the Shot Heard Round The World Ticket that I bought for $200 and sold for $1700. I believe that's why he's a bit upset with me, but I do give him credit and I applaud you for helping me in my side job, it's because of him, he got me started!

It's easy way to pick up an extra 2, 3, 5, 10 grand a year.

You search on Ebay under Vintage Sports Memorabilia - and he does his best work with Tickets, Programs, and as we now see Pennants.......but just search daily and people put wrong descriptions for example list Yankees but not Babe Ruth, or Boston but don't list Red Sox, various omissions then you re-list with a more detailed description, he uses 2 lines for maximum effectiveness. You can make great money, I highly recommend it, let me know if you need any tips.

[slidekellyslide]

Check the link again and read down the page...apparently this guy has been waging war against us and nobody even noticed. I guess we've been picking on his auctions for a long time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-Antique...item1c342e796c