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Posted By: ErikV.
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
With the juiced up ball and juiced up players, the 500 home run club is becoming dubious. The 300 win club may not ever see another member. Randy Johnson and Tom Glavine are close but neither will make it. With the advent of specialized relief pitchers and the decrease in amount of starts pitchers get each year, I suspect that in 50 years there will be two to three times as many members of the 500 HR club and 3000 hit club compared to the 300 win club. |
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Posted By: The other One (Julie)
Catchers come second. |
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Posted By: Judge Dred
Look at the number of players that won 300 games in the 19th century. Subtract those 6 from the list and you have 16 pitchers that have won 300 games after the 20th and 21st centuries. Note that Cy Young won a large number of his games in the 19th century. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
This is a no-brainer. 300 wins is now a true holy grail of pitching. People may sneer at Sutton and Niekro's 300 wins, but it's still 300 wins and need to be good enough to stay on a major league roster to get that many wins. |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
From a card collecting standpoint, the 500 club is the easiest. There are only a few pre-war cards in the grouping. (Ott, Foxx & Ruth are all that comes to mind). |
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Posted By: Jamie
If he can stay healthy, Pedro Martinez should join the club (and most likely the 4000 KO club as well- only three members there). I'd also give a nod to Mussina- though that's more reliant on him remaining with a winning ball club to give him the run support he needs. Glavine was mentioned as being close- it would have to mean him dragging out his career Sutton-style to pull it off. I'm hoping he doesn't. |
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Posted By: Josh K.
Pedro would have to average 18-19 victories a year for 7 more years (at which time he will be 40 years old) in order to reach 300. He has only won 19+ games only four times in 12 seasons. Mussina has only 208 wins, but is nearly 36. I may certainly be proven wrong, but I wouldnt put any money on either getting to 300 unless they pitch until they are 45. |
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Posted By: Pcelli60
More and more room at Cooperstown will have to be made for relief pitching..and the 300 game winner will be lost from this generation. |
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Posted By: Peter Thomas
If Pedro wins 6 more games this year he would still need 116 more wins for 300, if he gets there he certainly will have 4,000 K's. If he plays for 8 more years, that would only be an average of 14.5 wins per year which seems possible. He would have to average a little over 16.5 wins per year to do it in 7 years which seems unlikely to me. His next contract will probably have a lot to do with it. If he signs for 4 or 5 years @ $15,000,000 per year, he might well want to spend the rest of his time in a less stressfull environment, rather than signing up for another 3 to 4 years and mastering another pitch to win with, because there is no way he will be able to pitch like Randy Johnson @ 40 years old. I think Johnson will pitch for 3 or 4 more years and make it to 300 and maybe 5,000 K's, but not with the D'backs. |
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Posted By: Paul M
Don't rule out the crafty veteran Glavine winning 300, if he had just signed with the Phillies instead of the Mets he'd be at 270 right now. Even so, he only needs 41 more and he could easily go til age 42 and he's still posting a sub 3 ERA so it's not like he's just sticking around. |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
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