No gloss

[pawpawdiv9]

I know on Venezuelan Mickey Mantle cards, to look for no gloss and some with Latino words on the back.
But, does anyone know of this 54 Dan-Dee with NO GLOSS as being a proof??
Things like this get me wanting to go back and look thru my collection over and over to see if i got a variation as such.
Just questioning if this exist or is it just the potato grease make it feel as if it had no gloss??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141188765422...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Updated pic for show:

[Cardboard Junkie]

I'm curious too, how in the world does PSA know that this is a "proof" card?

[brian1961]

Hi ya Chris. Whilst I cannot with all certainty answer your question, I can provide a research project for you, and a bit of hobby history.

First, notice the Mantle in question does not have the many die-cut tabs that usually circumvent Dan-Dees. However, research this: several New York area ballplayers were put in the set. Do a search on eBay and the PSA and even SGC set registries for anyone submitting photos of their Dan-Dees. Remember to look for set as well as individual player registries. The point to decipher: are the die-cut tabs to be found on the New York Dan-Dees? I cannot positively say that I recall the tabs are also on the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants, as well as the one Cardinal, Red Schoendienst. Milprint may have decided to add them after their initial run of Cleveland and Pittsburgh players. The Indians and Pirates were die-cut; the others may have been cut by the printers in a different manner.

Second, as to the no gloss aspect of this card, remember, the paraffin coating on the Dan-Dees does not leave them very glossy; rather, an elegant semi-gloss. Furthermore, there were known to be several collectors during the 70s who did not appreciate the paraffin coating on the Dan-Dees. Therefore, they would CAREFULLY REMOVE as much of the coating as they could, usually with one of their wife's worn nylon stockings. One of those collectors was future Rare Sportsfilms founder, Doak Ewing, who pretty much introduced me to the Dan-Dees in about 1975. He always removed the paraffin coating. No big deal, as the coating was known to catch (a la flypaper) all sorts of dust, specks, and potato chip bits and grease. In many ways, a most legitimate manner of cleaning the card up.

Third, notice the potato chip stains on the card. A major clue, this. Makes for undeniable proof that the card originally resided in a bag with the Dan-Dee chips--whereby one day long ago it was plucked out as a youngster's free prize for buying those delicious Dan-Dee Potato Chips. Therefore, this vendor is totally incorrect in labeling it as a proof card.

Save your hard-earned money, or easy money, for something better. Take care, my fellow collecting warrior.

--Brian Powell

[pawpawdiv9]

I looked on Ebay, this is about the best one i seen with tabs I would say THIS ONE IS A PROOF.




Here is my (raw) card i got over a yr ago..i never went to have it graded, sits in a screw down holder for now.

[Zach Wheat]

Does anyone typically pay a premium for Dan Dee Proofs? What has been your collective experience?

I noticed the PA label does not designate it as such...so just curious.

Z Wheat

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Does anyone typically pay a premium for Dan Dee Proofs? What has been your collective experience?

I noticed the PA label does not designate it as such...so just curious.

Z Wheat

People will pay a premium for cards that are centered...the p/ups thread say it all the time, we will spend xtra for quality.
Only the real knowledagle folks pay for premiums, becasue well they know what they are or how scare or hard to find..like the Joe D that MattyC got or the 48 leaf Paige.

Then there the people that have money and throw it at anything that says so.

[Cardboard Junkie]

I'm certain Dan-Dee's came in large cans, not bags.

[CW]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Third, notice the potato chip stains on the card. A major clue, this. Makes for undeniable proof that the card originally resided in a bag with the Dan-Dee chips--whereby one day long ago it was plucked out as a youngster's free prize for buying those delicious Dan-Dee Potato Chips. Therefore, this vendor is totally incorrect in labeling it as a proof card.

Very good observation on the stains. PSA also labeled this as a "proof" on the flip. I like how the seller makes the distinction that although 3 total "proofs" have been graded, this is the only PSA 2, therefore a "1 of 1". How convenient.