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Posted By: scgaynor
Does anybody know at what event this photo was taken? It is a mounted photo, circa 1910, and Ed Walsh is pictured next to the man in the center. Does anybody know the event or can you identify any other people? Your help is much appreciated. |
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Posted By: Rawn Hill
Bill Carrigan just to the right of center. |
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Posted By: Rich Klein
With nothing other than instinct to go on -- but since there are wreaths in this photo -0- could this be from the Addie Joss memorial game played c. 1911 |
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Posted By: fkw
hats are removed too. memorial? |
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Rich, |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Same thought crossed my mind... a July 1911 game, and I think it was Cleveland vs a team of American League all stars. I think Walter Johnson pitched in that game. But if that is what it is, a Boston bat boy looks out of place. |
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Posted By: Matt
I don't believe Walsh was at the Joss game, and there isn't anyone wearing a Chicago uni in my copy of the panoramic print from that game. |
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Posted By: Alan U
This is a WAG, but could the tall guy in the middle be Cy Young? |
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
The flowers, everyone looking somber-faced, the lack of headgear...something saddening was afoot, to be certain. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
And if my recollection is correct about July, then what's the deal with the coats and sweaters??? |
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Posted By: Alan U
July 24, 1911 |
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Posted By: Matt
here is more proof it's probably not the Joss game: |
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Posted By: Matt
Not that this narrows it that much, but that's the Chicago road uni used between 1902 and 1916 (the fact that it's Walsh means it's 1904-1916). Since the Boston boy is there, perhaps we have a location - Chicago at Boston on Memorial day? |
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Posted By: howard
Maybe it's from a pre-game memorial for Red Sox manager Chick Stahl who committed suicide a couple of weeks before the 1907 season. If it was a pre-season exhibition game in Boston it would account for the apparantly chilly weather. |
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Posted By: Alan U
I don't have any association with this website, but from this picture and a couple of others on the site, it appears horseshoe flower arrangements may have been common at ceremonies, somber or not. |
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Alan, |
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Posted By: ROBERT ADAMS JR
Impossible to say from a single photo but that is a VERY grim group . |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Right behind Ed Walsh I believe I see Harry Lord looking over his shoulder. Doesn't help too much as Lord played with Boston AL from 1907-10 and then for Chicago AL from 1910-1914. It does look like he is wearing a dark collar (like Walsh), if this is the case the pic would be from 1910-14. |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
It could be me but the older guy holding his hat in his hand on the right side of the pic looks an awful lot like Frank Bancroft. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
If the batboy's uni is accurate, it appears to match up with the Red Sox uniforms of 1910 and 1911. |
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Posted By: scgaynor
All good idea's, please keep them coming, it gives me some other avenue's of research. |
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Posted By: brock
Not much help, but the guy in the middle looks like he is posing for a photo with the guy to his left. So i dont think its for someone that had died. But then you see the guy to the far right and it looks likes hes crying or something. |
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Posted By: Hal
Walsh's Chicago uniform appears identical to those shown on some of the White Sox players in the E107 set, and the Boston batboy's uniform actually appears identical to those in a photo of the 1903 Red Sox in Ken Burns' Baseball series. It's hard to tell, but the batboy's hat appears to have the horizontal stripes characteristic of uniforms of the mid 1890's - early 1900's. My guess is the photo is circa 1903 and obviously a memorial or funeral of some sort. |
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Posted By: brock
If it is from 1903 i found this while looking threw a site. But its the summer so i dont know why they would wear their sweaters? |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Scott, I have faith that eventually this bunch will figure it out... |
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Posted By: Dave S
Agree with Harry Lord and think the player on his left in the sweater with arms folded may be Walt "Red" Kuhn who played with the ChiSox 1912-14... |
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Posted By: Steve
Great photo... Sorry, no help with this ceremony. Uniforms suggest 1910 at Huntington Ave. |
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Posted By: Shawn Chambers
My off the wall guess... |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Steve. Awesome research what kid. Looks like him. IMO |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Steve. Awesome research picking out the kid. Looks like him. IMO Pretty neat photo |
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Posted By: Eric B
.....I'm don't see them, but the bearded guy in the middle with the bad breath is definitely Willie Nelson.... |
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Posted By: jay wolt
Perhaps its a Memorial day event as suggested |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
fielder jones to the left of walsh? |
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Posted By: PC
It's a "loving cup" presentation, involving someone in either the White Sox or Red Sox organization, between the years 1910-1914 (the years Lord and Walsh were on the White Sox, and Carrigan was on the Red Sox -- they are all definitely in the picture). Probably taken shortly before the actual presentation, since everyone appears to be looking around and waiting for something to happen. |
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Posted By: Rawn Hill
Will again state that it is Carrigan to the right of the man in the middle and it was definately a home game for the Red Sox. I agree that Lord is correctly identified. |
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Posted By: Alan U
I think Big Ed Walsh was at least 6 feet tall, does anyone know if Billy Sunday was tall? The guy in the picture looks 3-4 inches taller than Walsh. |
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Posted By: Alan U
I may be crazy, but I still can't rule out Cy Young, although the ears may be too high. |
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Posted By: Butch & Co.
The big guy in the middle definitely bears a facial resemblance to Sunday, but, per Alan's question -- had the same thought here -- Total Baseball lists Sunday as 5'10", Walsh as 6'1". If indeed that's Walsh in the photo, the fellow in the center must be at least 6'3", 6'4"... |
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Posted By: PC
Another idea ... |
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Posted By: brock
It could also be because the titanic sank in 1912. |
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
...but the fellow some have identified as Sunday has a pronounced widow's peak in the photo in question. Sunday does not seem to have this physical feature, although the two men really DO look alike. |
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Posted By: Jerry
Wasn't there a memorial game fro Jimmy McAleer also. |
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
McAleer didn't die until 1931 if I remember correctly. What tragedy befell him 20 years prior to his death that would have called for some sort of "passing of the hat"? As far as I can recall, he was an executive around the time this pic was taken. |
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Posted By: Jerry
McAleer was the manager of the All Stars in the Joss memorial game thats is probally how I associated him with a memorial game. |
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Posted By: scgaynor
Thanks for the help on this. I knew that it would be a longshot to identify the specific event, but at least we were able to get the names of a few of the other players. |
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Posted By: dan mckee
Cobb's head above the wreath |
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Posted By: Butch & Co.
Been waiting for someone to put a name to that remarkably distinctive face... here's a better photo for comparison: |
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