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Not sure if this is new to net54 or old news. Interesting to see if/when this comes to market.
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Wow, very cool!
Although that grade might be a liiiiiiiitle bit generous, especially considering it was only graded a few years ago. |
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Yeah, it's a 3 no matter how well centered or pretty it is. It is not a playing card; it shouldn't have rounded corners.
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PSA 2.5 max. I would not, however, turn it down.
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Last night was Season 2, episode 1 of Golden's show on Netflix. There was a big segment on this card in the show. Mr. Golden takes 10M in cash to the owner "Steve" (Who knows if the cash was the real deal), and attempts to get him to let Mr. Golden send the card to auction - he was turned down.
I'm sure much more to follow in the upcoming episodes regarding the card. There is a thread in the water cooler section on the show if anyone wants to chime in. |
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Friends and family/Animal Farm grading plan?
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Paid $0.01 for it?
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I would assume it was part of a larger group lot of cards (with all sorts of the type we like to pursue today), all for a penny a card.
Brian |
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If 'grading' was sensible and honest this card would be an extreme embarrassment to SGC. Original thread was pretty funny
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Regardless of the grade
I would not mind having that card Love the look
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Amazing card, but the assigned grade is patently ridiculous even by the standard from 10 years ago. That was never a "5"
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Even the 1/2 wagner card that sold a few years ago is still a beauty to me.
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It's definitely one of the nicest Wagners, and let's face it the vast majority of us would take any Wagner we could actually get our hands on. But I don't see how SGC does themselves any favors with a grade like that. I guess it's less egregious than giving a hand cut card an 8.
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I've never understood this, or the subtle "pass" that many other prewar but especially tobacco cards get on corners. If that was a 1950's Topps card with those corners, no way is that within shouting distance of a 5.
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When I look at that card my focus isn't on the number.
Over graded? Sure. But who cares..... It's stunning!
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Agree...its a beautiful example.
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All I know is when grading companies give me gifts like that I am very happy.
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There's also an obviously trimmed Wagner in an 8 holder not doing its grading company any PR favors.
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This.
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Which one is worth more: the trimmed PSA 8 or the overgraded SGC 5? Last edited by 4815162342; Yesterday at 08:51 AM. Reason: typo |
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Excellent question.
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To the collector the SGC 5 to the investor the PSA 8. The PSA 8 holds way more value to the investor. I believe that if that card, the PSA 8 ever came to auction it would do well over 100 million.
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Pretty much every Wagner is over graded.
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Which will sell for more: PSA 8 T206 Wagner or 1952 Topps Mick PSA 10?
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100 percent. Definitely an iconic card in the hobby. The lore, the backstory.
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It might break the record for the highest auction price of any sports collectible, but $100 million? No way. |
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I’m a SGC fan and only grade with SGC but in my opinion that Wagner is at best a 2 super rounded corners and a spot at the top of the card. Absolutely great looking card but way to over graded.
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I would have thought the Gretzky Wagner fell a little out of favor due to trimming. Still worth many many millions but is the history of the card a good thing for it or does it negatively affect it?
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It’s not a trimmed card though it was cut from a sheet. Very different in some eyes, some hate it, yet some don’t mind at all.
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The received wisdom is that it was sheet cut back in the annals of time, was still oversize, and was later trimmed by Mastro.
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No one hates the card (except the conspiracy theorists who claim it is a fake despite every single eyewitness' analysis), people hate the lie PSA tells about the card, that this very nice Authentic is an 8 just because that lie is beneficial to some rich people.
Didn't Mastro admit to trimming it after the alleged 'sheet cutting' in court? |
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It was an oversize sheet cut card when he bought it from Alan Ray, so already no better than AUTH. He then made it look prettier. His trimming did not affect the grade if you assume PSA's standards did not include grading sheet cut cards.
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T206resource says same card
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00000001 big lie started it all...ironic don't you think!
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