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Is This Really Babe Ruth?
I was going through some of my oddball Babe cards and came across this one. It's a 1935 Muratti cigarette card of Babe and Olympic diver, Dorothy Boynton. The card back mentions that in 1928 Dorothy, a diver, was 14 and the youngest athlete ever to win an Olympic medal. It states that she won the 1932 Gold for diving in LA. The photo is presumably from the 1932 Olympics. Not a word about the Babe though. He seems kind of slim to be Babe and I think the nose is wrong. Also, the Olympics in LA ran July 30, 1932 to August 14, 1932. Wouldn't Babe be playing ball then?
Or could the man be Dorothy's coach, Ernie Brandsten? Babe in 1932: Any ideas?
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Ruth played in only 133 games in 1932, but appears in every Yankee box score from 7/31 thru 8/14 during the Olympics. The closest he got to LA was a series of road games in St Louis during that interval.
The Yankees did not play the Angels in 1932 either. I'm not very good with ears and noses as ENT was not my specialty. A photograph of Ernie in a bow tie could be helpful. You may be right.
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Doesn't look like Ruth to me. My pick is the coach.
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This has been brought up before, and, IIRC, it was the general consensus that this wasn't Babe Ruth.
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He Looks More Like "The Whammer"
From "The Natural" I'm not accustomed to the Written Language on the Back Howevar, I Don't See "Ruth's" Name Mentioned!? So? Who was the marketing genius fir PSA This Time Around? Has Anybody Evar Seen This Card Labeled Wit out Mr. Ruth Mention'd?
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No discussion is required. It is beyond self evident that that fellow is NOT Babe Ruth. I mean, come on!!
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"No discussion required" = why is OP wasting my time? "beyond self evident" = why is OP wasting my time? "I mean, come on" = why is the OP wasting my time? Darren we're going to need to see some smiley face emojis in the future to help us determine if you are actually being funny or if you are just being yourself. Back to the thread...in my opinion, most likely not Ruth.
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I think we have a match:
http://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/new...re-id530863020 Question is, how did both PSA and Beckett get it into their heads that Babe Ruth is pictured on that card? There are currently three different PSA graded copies, and one BVG graded copy on ebay. Steve
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I sent a message to the setregistry email to have it removed from the Master and Super Set registries at PSA.
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So the question becomes; How many people paid Babe Ruth money for that card, and how many people paid Ernst Brandsten money for that card?
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Screw off? Really?...but I agreed with you that it probably isn't Ruth. Ohhhhhhh...I get it...the translation thing. I see. I just wanted to make sure everyone here knew that you may not be trying to be a dick, you just come off like you are a dick. What I am trying to communicate is that you don't have to try to be a dick. It just comes naturally for you. How do I know this? I can read. I have been able to read for years.
I feel more strongly now that the guy shown on the card is not Ruth.
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Nothing gets by PSA.
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Hey look at this, Darren actually made a trade! We traded insults, but we can call it a trade. See that wasn't so "stupid tough", was it?
Sorry to the OP Frank (mantlefan) for the derailing of the thread. All my fault. Still not Ruth and flips should be corrected.
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For context, little boy Curt is upset that he couldn't talk me out of one of my PSA 8 1973 Kaline variations with the Band Aid on his forehead. So he waits a couple of months, sees me in this thread, and suddenly decides to type away insults at me out of nowhere. I thought this d-bag was just playing around, but then I was like, "What the heck??"
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Still probably not Babe Ruth.
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Meanwhile I've been waiting for a photo of Ernie Brandsten in a bow tie and now we have it from Steve.
Sorry to interrupt the discussion. Carry on.
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Wow, you really are a little snowflake, aren't you?? You keep spewing out your venom towards me because why??? We didn't make a trade two months ago? A couple of PM's back and forth and i wasn't interested in your Milton Bradley cards, because I don't collect the set. A completely forgettable situation, but here you are laughably losing your mind all of this time later?? And completely, and I mean COMPLETELY, out of the blue?? And again, in your mind you think I'm the one with the problem????? Holy freakin' crap!!! Get a frickin' clue, little boy. You keep throwing out your petty BS and I'll be throwing it right back, cupcake.
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Again, sorry for sidetracking the thread. I probably shouldn't be counseling Darren in public, but it appears he needs some guidance.
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And, buttercup, see tomorrow I have things to do, as I have something you clearly don't...a life. So I may not be around to answer the pathetic crap that spills out of your mouth until later in the day. Hope that works for you. Oh, speaking of your mom, would you like me to send you a picture of the Kaline card that you covet so much that it's sent you into a frenzy?? Perhaps mommy will crochet the image into a pillow for you, so she can use it the next time she tucks you in, okay, darling boy??
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Can't you guys flirt via PM? None of us care.
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Neither of them will be posting in this thread again or it will be deleted. They do need to take it to PMs if they want to snuggle like that. And I always thought it was Ruth even though it didn't look like him.
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And now?
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Here's Babe's schedule while the Olympics were operating and the picture was taken: Could he have flown to LA for the weekend?
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Plausible beyond belief
Perhaps it is just another insidious case of a Babe in Earnie's clothing.
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http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/spo...st-graded.html
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PWCC should have know it was Ernie, not Babe.
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If it was Ruth, you would think the back would have mentioned it?
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It looks nothing like, Ruth, imo, and you're right, if it was, it would be mentioned on the back for sure.
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I'm thinking the card must be incorrectly listed in Beckett's guide, or the SCD Standard Catalog. I looked in my 2005 and 2007 editions of the SCDSC, and it isn't listed. Beckett.com does list it as a Babe Ruth card in their database.
Right now on ebay, there are 4 of them graded by PSA, one graded by Beckett, and one more graded by SGC. So, all the grading companies are furthering the mistaken identity, but where did they get there information from? Steve
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Wowie
Well Dale, the price is kinda steep, but code BBQ for "$20 off" has me getting ready to press the buy button!
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German
Yep, my 4 years of German in college finally pays off! The reverse states that Dorothy was the youngest person ever to medal in the Olympics when she won a diving medal in the 1928 games.
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Congrats on your P/U. PSA 9's are nothing to laugh about, especially when they are cards of Babe Ruth.
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just ended it
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1962 Dickson Orde Sports of the Countries - [Base] #11 - America (Babe Ruth) [PSA*8] Courtesy of COMC.com Who is this guy? Not Babe Ruth (or really anyone) IMO. It's just a mention on the back. Kind of like:
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Any word on any of this, John? I am curious what will happen going forward with this card and curious if current owners, thinking they have Ruth, know about this?
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Nope, no response from the Set Registry team yet.
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Ditto, now 5 months later.
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We need Spaeth to email Joe O again. I think that is how the Marquard finally got fixed from Ruth on the Sermon postcard.
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all 3 of the big grading compaines need to see the evidence and make the correction.
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