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Old 08-07-2025, 03:27 PM
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Default Lelands Underpromotes Historic Dave Parker Glove During HOF Induction

I’m sharing this on behalf of my family, as we’ve had a frustrating experience with Lelands Auctions that raises broader questions about how auction houses treat consignments — especially historic one-of-a-kind items.

A 1979 game-used, PSA/DNA authenticated glove from Dave Parker — signed and attributed to his World Series season — was consigned by my husband’s brother with permission. The glove has been in their family since Parker gifted it directly to their grandfather, a cardiologist affiliated with the Pirates during spring training in Bradenton. It’s supported by a signed letter of provenance from my husband, who is the documented owner.

The glove went live on July 27, 2025, the exact date of Parker’s posthumous Hall of Fame induction, and weeks after his passing. Despite this significance, the listing received:

No email blast inclusion

No homepage or catalog presence

No mention of the owner’s name in the written lot description

Concerns were raised directly and in writing. Rather than improving exposure when there was still time, Lelands delayed any updates until August 6, halfway through the auction, when the lot was already underperforming. They eventually added the consignor’s name to the description and included the glove in an email — but only after pressure was applied via a formal notice.

While Lelands claims their goal is always to “maximize the sale price,” it’s hard to reconcile that with how this was handled — especially considering no other PSA/DNA game-used Parker glove appears to have ever surfaced publicly.

Has anyone else dealt with this kind of treatment — where a historic item was effectively buried by the auction house? Would welcome any thoughts or similar experiences with Lelands or other houses.
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Old 08-07-2025, 03:49 PM
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They all do it... you're not alone. As a frequent consignor to at least 8 different Auction Houses, it's become clear that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. For me, a recurring problem has been the number of photographs they post. How hard is it to show ALL panels of an autographed ball? How hard is it to photograph the front AND back of a vintage glove? I could go on and on, but you get the idea.

Lelands has gone through some significant recent changes.... Recently purchased by Clean Sweep, and Mike + Josh are no longer there. But they were bought be a good company and should be able to "right the ship".

I do sympathize with you in regard to "corrective actions" taken well after the auction has begun. As a bidder, I typically put in all of my marker bids and watched items on Day One. Then I pretty much ignore the auction for three weeks... only coming back to it on closing night.

So revisions/enhancements to the item's description often get overlooked, and I agree they need to get it right the FIRST time. Hope your glove does well despite your disappointment.... you should include a link to your consignment in your post. That said... quality items usually find their way to the top, and I see very little that flies under the radar these days!
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Old 08-07-2025, 04:09 PM
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I used Lelands for one item many years ago…
I had an all original Addie joss pano from the 1911 benefit game.
All framed up and all
They took it out of the frame and sold it just by itself. I did not ask them to do that. Took it upon themselves to do that.
Never again have i used them and I would never send anyone to them either.
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Old 08-07-2025, 04:20 PM
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Your auction has over 9 days left. With 700 views. That is a ton (of both views and time remaining).


Did you specify the item getting pushed by Lelands when consigning? Doesn't sound like it.

In any case, people are seeing your listing. A lot of people.


I know this sounds rude but the 1200 lots above you want the same treatment. You need to get this sort of thing written in your auction contract.
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Once you consign anything your control is limited. You can try to control the process but can really only control so much.

Taking something out of a frame and not telling the consignor is outrageous.
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Sorry, but I agree with Mark S. Amazing items get seen, it's hard to fly under the radar. And posting here in Net54 about it is good advertising. Others toot their own horns to make sure their items get seen. Post the link to the item so it's easier for people on Net54 to see. Humans are lazy and don't want to search.

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Sorry, but I agree with Mark S. Amazing items get seen, it's hard to fly under the radar. And posting here in Net54 about it is good advertising. Others toot their own horns to make sure their items get seen. Post the link to the item so it's easier for people on Net54 to see. Humans are lazy and don't want to search.

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I'll leave it to the OP to decide if he wants to post the link.

But I just looked at the listing on Lelands' website, and must say it's the longest description I've ever seen for a Game-used Glove. A very lengthy and informative description with plenty of pics and letters from both PSA and the Family. So while they may have missed a couple of things initially, they certainly made it right.

Tons of time left.... it will settle in at the correct market price, or perhaps even higher (given the Cobra's recent HOF Induction). Don't worry; be happy!
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Guy consigns a family heirloom and it sounds like he was in charge for the family and is crapping a brick it doesn’t do well enough. Not a regular consignor. Give him a little break. The idea that he is nefariously gaming the system for free publicity to the detriment of others seems a little overly dramatic. Just seems like a guy freaking out a bit.

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Guy consigns a family heirloom and it sounds like he was in charge for the family and is crapping a brick it doesn’t do well enough. Not a regular consignor. Give him a little break. The idea that he is nefariously gaming the system for free publicity to the detriment of others seems a little overly dramatic. Just seems like a guy freaking out a bit.
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I'll leave it to the OP to decide if he wants to post the link.

But I just looked at the listing on Lelands' website, and must say it's the longest description I've ever seen for a Game-used Glove. A very lengthy and informative description with plenty of pics and letters from both PSA and the Family. So while they may have missed a couple of things initially, they certainly made it right.

Tons of time left.... it will settle in at the correct market price, or perhaps even higher (given the Cobra's recent HOF Induction). Don't worry; be happy!
Agree, But of course, as you noted earlier - one dang picture of the glove.
Off topic but wouldn’t a glove collector like to see the inside of the glove for the amount of wear ?

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I have to ask because it is Dave Parker and not a first or even 10th ballot HOFer. How much is one of his gloves worth? I hope someone updates this thread with the final price because I am sure it will greatly surprise me.
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Old 08-08-2025, 07:11 AM
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Infraction given. Had this been seen earlier it would have been deleted and you would have been banned. Apparently, you don't want to follow rules or are in such a hurry to blast the auction house you just don't care. This is 2 strikes in a 3 strike game. No name (now there is as I put it there) and 1st post is pissing and moaning ... Not cool and against the rules.

I changed my mind. I am so sick and tired of this happening. OP is gone. Also, OP is clearly a woman ...and registered as a male.

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I’m sharing this on behalf of my family, as we’ve had a frustrating experience with Lelands Auctions that raises broader questions about how auction houses treat consignments — especially historic one-of-a-kind items.

A 1979 game-used, PSA/DNA authenticated glove from Dave Parker — signed and attributed to his World Series season — was consigned by my husband’s brother with permission. The glove has been in their family since Parker gifted it directly to their grandfather, a cardiologist affiliated with the Pirates during spring training in Bradenton. It’s supported by a signed letter of provenance from my husband, who is the documented owner.

The glove went live on July 27, 2025, the exact date of Parker’s posthumous Hall of Fame induction, and weeks after his passing. Despite this significance, the listing received:

No email blast inclusion

No homepage or catalog presence

No mention of the owner’s name in the written lot description

Concerns were raised directly and in writing. Rather than improving exposure when there was still time, Lelands delayed any updates until August 6, halfway through the auction, when the lot was already underperforming. They eventually added the consignor’s name to the description and included the glove in an email — but only after pressure was applied via a formal notice.

While Lelands claims their goal is always to “maximize the sale price,” it’s hard to reconcile that with how this was handled — especially considering no other PSA/DNA game-used Parker glove appears to have ever surfaced publicly.

Has anyone else dealt with this kind of treatment — where a historic item was effectively buried by the auction house? Would welcome any thoughts or similar experiences with Lelands or other houses.
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In the interests of diplomacy I held myself back yesterday …. but since the OP is gone…… how much hoopla does a Dave Parker glove deserve? It ain’t exactly Babe Ruth’s 1927 Yankees uniform …… just sayin….
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Old 08-08-2025, 07:43 AM
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In the interests of diplomacy I held myself back yesterday …. but since the OP is gone…… how much hoopla does a Dave Parker glove deserve? It ain’t exactly Babe Ruth’s 1927 Yankees uniform …… just sayin….
I had/have the exact same question.
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Infraction given. Had this been seen earlier it would have been deleted and you would have been banned. Apparently, you don't want to follow rules or are in such a hurry to blast the auction house you just don't care. This is 2 strikes in a 3 strike game. No name (now there is as I put it there) and 1st post is pissing and moaning ... Not cool and against the rules.

I changed my mind. I am so sick and tired of this happening. OP is gone. Also, OP is clearly a woman ...and registered as a male.
I don't know the OP. But the OP could be a homosexual male. If they were married, they would have a husband.

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I don't know the OP. But the OP could be a homosexual male. If they were married, they would have a husband.

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True.... . I didn't think about that. Apologies on that part of it if that is the case. Same outcome. No name and blasting a person or company with their first post.

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Just my opinion but I feel like, in this case, it is just too much. Great piece but a description like that actually turns my away from it. I don't need that kind of mini-novel written about a Dave Parker glove. Even if I were interested I would stop reading after a few lines. Completely unnecessary and my first inclination when I encounter auction descriptions like this for pieces at that level is that something is trying to be either hidden or explained away...
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But the OP could be a homosexual male.

True. He does go by “Matthew”……….not “Matt”
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I had missed this thread until now.

Interesting "ending" prior to my reply.

I just scanned thru and have two thoughts :

1 - Based on Lucas saying there were 9 days left in his post on Aug 7, I assume the auction is over, but I'm not positive because :

2 - I find it amusing that the OP cares so much about Lelands "under promoting" the glove that they started this thread, yet forgot to add a link to the auction in their post, thereby under promoting it themselves.

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I had missed this thread until now.

Interesting "ending" prior to my reply.

I just scanned thru and have two thoughts :

1 - Based on Lucas saying there were 9 days left in his post on Aug 7, I assume the auction is over, but I'm not positive because :

2 - I find it amusing that the OP cares so much about Lelands "under promoting" the glove that they started this thread, yet forgot to add a link to the auction in their post, thereby under promoting it themselves.

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It did end, here is the result Doug (and everybody else curious)

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I'm not an equipment guy, is that a good price for the seller?
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Was there a mention of the 1979 all star game? His two throws in that game (especially the one to home plate) are among the most memorable in the history of the all star game. If he can be shown to be using that glove for both the all star game and the World Series then I would say that was too cheap. If that glove was used for both, it is an integral part of Pittsburgh sports history in my opinion. Though I'm not a game used glove expert. Just my opinion.
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Was there a mention of the 1979 all star game? His two throws in that game (especially the one to home plate) are among the most memorable in the history of the all star game. If he can be shown to be using that glove for both the all star game and the World Series then I would say that was too cheap. If that glove was used for both, it is an integral part of Pittsburgh sports history in my opinion. Though I'm not a game used glove expert. Just my opinion.
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I'm not sure about gloves, but important Barry Larkin bats figure around $2500. His most popular year is 1990, probably followed by 1986/87, or 1995. Maybe a WS game would exceed that amount. But I bought a rookie era Larkin bat for roughly $550 in 2023.

So figuring Parker is probably equivalent to Larkin prestige, I'd assume the price landed about right. It just proves to me that memorabilia is still under-represented in the hobby.

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It just proves to me that memorabilia is still under-represented in the hobby.
I choose to read your use of the word "memorabilia" as "game used memorabilia" and with that in mind, I would think that part of the reason is that at best it can be hard to prove something is what is claims to be, and at worst it can be easy to fake.

Lot's of room for 'error'.

For other memorabilia I think it has a lot to do with sizes, shapes, lack of "sets", numerous reasons.

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I choose to read your use of the word "memorabilia" as "game used memorabilia" and with that in mind, I would think that part of the reason is that at best it can be hard to prove something is what is claims to be, and at worst it can be easy to fake.

Lot's of room for 'error'.

For other memorabilia I think it has a lot to do with sizes, shapes, lack of "sets", numerous reasons.

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And, yes, I see your point. It reminds me of the Babe Ruth bat that auctioned a year ago that was labeled as the "called shot" game used bat. Lots of guys here argued that it wasn't THAT bat, but the auction price proved others wanted to believe it was special.

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