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Posted By: David Seaborn
I remember a thread a few years ago where most of the N54er with a long history in the hobby mainly agreed the percentage was quite low. This was mainly for two reasons; 1) there are many beat up commons not worth slabbing, and 2) many of the hobby's best collections reside with collectors who started many years ago and don't have anything slabbed. While I think these are true statements, I think it's also fair to say that the percentage must be going up with time. The price of many commons has steadily risen, making their slabbing more reasonable. Although there are some who break cards out of their 'entombment', I think every major auction house gets many more graded, resulting in a net increase. Also, slowly many of these pioneering collectors (or their familes) are auctioning off their collections, where many of the cards are again being slabbed. |
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Posted By: steve f
Reckon I'm a paranoid collector; |
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Posted By: bruce Dorskind
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Posted By: Jay
I would guess under 10%. In my collection it is under 1%. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
If these early numbers are true (and they seem low to me) then I am definitely buying some stock in the grading companies. They clearly will have a lot of business in the coming years. |
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Posted By: Peter Thomas
I think it is much higher 25% or more. |
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Posted By: leon
Our guess (me and my dog Trixie)is that the number for pre-war graded cards is 6.5% ....not a tenth of a percent more. I had to argue with Trixie about it but in the end she caved in and went with my number. (well, I bribed her with another stuffed toy to tear up but that's for another thread)..... |
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Posted By: Geno
I would guess in the 10-15% range. I have a complete set of T205s with not a slab in sight. Of roughly 1000 pre-war cards in my collection, I'd guess about 10 are slabbed. That's 10 cards, not 10%... |
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Posted By: Steve M.
I was leaning towards 1% and with Geno's post am willing to commit to that estimate. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Unquestionably over 10% of prewar. Probably close to 15% but on the way to over 75%--everything except the real beaters. |
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Posted By: Alan
David - Good question. |
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Posted By: T206Collector
[Probably close to 15% but on the way to over 75%--everything except the real beaters.] |
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Posted By: john/z28jd
About 5% of my cards are graded but ive never actually had a card graded and dont plan on it any time soon |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I'm guessing I have a couple of thousand pre WWI cards. 3 are graded. One I haven't busted out, yet, a T206 Elberfield portrait. The other 2 I got slabbed with plans on selling them. When the dust settles, I'll be at 0% graded. So for someone out there with 100 PSA T206s, when we're considered together, that would be about 4.5% graded. I think that's a high number. I'll peek at the Vintage Graded Baseball Card Forum and see what the thinking is over there. |
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Posted By: MikeU
Less than 50% of the Wagners in existence have been graded. It is much closer to around 25%-35%. It could be said that this card is the prime example of a card that would make sense to be nearly 100% graded. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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Posted By: Lee
My guess is probably around 15% are slabbed now overall for prewar. In my collection, 70% of the prewar cards are slabbed. |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
My guess is that there are an enormous amount of prewar cards out there that haven't been graded. I would say the graded portion is just a fraction - maybe 2-3%. |
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Posted By: Preece1
I only have a few cards in my collection (25), but they are all graded, and all bye SGC. This way my 8 year old can handle them and I don't have a heart attack. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Paul, |
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Posted By: T206Collector
...then why have nearly 100% of the mintiest pre-war cards been graded while only 15% of the mid to low-grade cards been graded? |
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Posted By: Peter Spaeth
If the question includes cards of all conditions, I would guess 5 percent. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Paul, |
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Posted By: T206Collector
I look forward to reading some responses to your theory. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Al, |
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Posted By: fkw
Graded cards make about 3% of my collection (mainly to resell), and I get 10 cards graded every month on average. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Jim, |
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Posted By: Richard
Is it worth it to slab a T206 common in Good condition? Probably not. Not worth it for a 1933 Goudey common in Good condition either. Just as it is not worth it to slab a 1988 Donruss Roberto Kelly. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Jim, I would have agreed with your theory -- that all the good prewar stuff is or will soon be graded because 'that's where the money is' until recently when I met someone who had complete sets of 33 and 34 Goudey and T206 (minus the biggies). The cards were mostly collected in the 80s and were in pristine condition. He paid pennies (if that) on the dollar for the cards. Only one card was sent in for grading and it was a Cobb Green Portrait that came back a 7 - and he was disappointed as he thought it should have been an 8. The rest of the cards were just as nice - and will never be slabbed. The bottom line is that not everyone is looking to maximize the liquid value of their assets at the present time. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Richard, |
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Posted By: peter chao
Richard, |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Jeff, |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
"Millions? Yes--but how many do you think have been graded???" |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Al, |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
I would think the total number is higher than 325,000. SGC has graded 50,000 T205s, T206s, 33 and 34 Goudeys alone. |
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Posted By: david-and-cindy
Out of 100 vintage cards none are slabbed. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Insurance, a reason to have cards graded. |
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Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)
Observations: |
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Posted By: Bobby Binder
Grading is here to stay and with the internet it is essential to have your cards authenticated. We are going to see more and more cards available on line this is the way of the future. Card shows and shops are closing and getting less and less people to attend. So with dealers having to sell mostly on line they will be forced into getting even more cards graded just for the sake of authenticity. People rather be at home and buy on line and go to their PO box every few days to pick up the new additions. With the increase of values on lower grade material it makes sense to have them all graded for the most part if you want to sell. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Bobby, |
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