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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: Frank L.
I was looking through my collection and again pulled out the Old Judge card printed with JOE R. ROYER CONFECTIONER on back. I bought my example several years back. There was a discussion about this in 2005 on the forum. Any conclusion if these cards are real? I did not see a consenus on those discussions. There is one listed on ebay BUY IT NOW for $1000. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: Fred C
I've seen a few of these cards. One that I've seen recycled a few times on ebay is a Tommy McCarthy. The Royer stamped cards I've seen seem a little smaller than a standard OJ (yes, I realize OJs came in varying size). There's something else about those cards that I just can't put my finger on. I don't think they're the real thing, just my opinion. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: davidcycleback
Ask yourself why a confectioner would use as promotion a card with a tobacco add on it. There were available many advertisement-free cards to place your company stamp on, including comic trade cards. In fact, the 1880s-90s comic trade cards were specifically made for a company, whether a confectioner or local general store, to place its stamp on. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: Joe Jones
I have one and the tobacco ad is cut off. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: davidcycleback
Interesting detail, Joe. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: davidcycleback
I saw on eBay an Old Judge with a stamp for a pickled herring distributor. Thought it was pretty fishy. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Not related to the Royer stamps (which I had also thought were not legit -- however someone may have added the stamp to real OJ's too) but I have the following back stamp on an OJ Gerhardt (Script Series)... |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: davidcycleback
A cigar store stamp makes sense. They probably stocked Old Judge and were happy to promote smoking in general. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: Frank L.
The one I have is yellowed as is the one currently going for $1000 on ebay(yes it is Tommy McCarthy as mentioned above). I find it interesting that a Confectioner named Royer did exist in Lancaster, PA at the beinning of the century. Per Scott Brockelman(on 9/25/05 thread), he did not feel these were likely a recent fake and may have been based on real OLD JUDGE cards from the time. The photo is blurry and cant quite make out the name. |
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Joe R. Royer Confectioner
Posted By: Fred C
The seller is calling this a script series card based on the handwritten player name, position and team inscription. Look at the above Gerhardt, that is a script series card. |
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