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CSC COLLECTIBLES Full Page Ad In SCD Magazine
Today, May 22, 2012, I received my June 1 issue of SCD magazine. When I got to page 8, I was, and still am, shocked at what I saw.
A full-page advertisement from CSC Collectibles. The title of the full-page ad reads Scoreboard Closeout Sales! I hope that title is not referring to the old Scoreboard company. None of the autograph items on that page are from the old Scoreboard. I am waiting for a reply from both the publisher and editor of SCD. As we all know, COAs from CSC Collectibles and Chris Morales are on Ebay's Banned COA list. The sub-heading of the ad reads "We Only Use Board and Court Qualified, Forensic Examination (Not Opinions)." In other words, Chris Morales. Here is the full-page ad: SCDCSC.jpg |
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I love where it says "We consign to auction houses and charities". Like we haven't been seing a lot of that lately.
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Someone still gets SCD??
Considering they never did anything about Coach's, what makes you think they care about CSC? When your ship is going down the drain, the first thing you jettison is your integrity. Ken earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com |
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I used to love SCD back in the late 80's. Seemed like it was about an inch think with 1000's of dealers and 100's of shows with mail order. Between CC's ads, the shortening of existing subscriptions, and minimal content, that was enough for me.
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I stopped receiving SCD sometime last year but CSC would have their advertisements on the back cover ever other week or so. There was also another company who had pretty much the same items and layout as the CSC ads.
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Harlan Werner is Sandy's agent now and is doing a private signing with him and the prices are even higher than that for both balls and photos.
but the "real" ones this company carries can be sold off at a cut rate price. |
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Any way to get in contact with Harlan to have a cease and desist letter sent to CSC?
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Does anyone in the world think they are getting a real Koufax ball for $99 or Mays ball for $45?
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especially since they had to pay the signer, the fde and overhead costs like storage, advertising, etc. Koufax won't sign for 90, or mays for 45, so how could they sell it for 90 or 45? They might say they got it at a bankruptcy sale, etc. but if it was a real koufax ball, you could still easily sell it for a lot more. And if it was real adn they did a private signing with these guys, all they had to do is take a closeup of koufax signing that exact style of signature, with good documentation as to the date, location, and contract, and you wouldn't need the fde cert.
CSC sells the Ali signed 8 x 10 for 175 dollars, and Islamic pamphlets go for 150 on ebay, so a signed 8 x 10 that is real would go for well over 250-350 easy. At 175 I know a couple of people stockpiling hundreds of ali signed photos that would buy them all , all day long at that price. they aren't doing that, and that tells us all we need to know. I sold a real ali signed 8 x 10 to one of these stockpilers 2 years ago for 135, and it was inscribed, he still wanted it, because he is stockpiling ali signatures, but he doesnt want these uninscribed Ali's at csc, why not? we all know. Last edited by travrosty; 05-22-2012 at 03:59 PM. |
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Email sent to Editor Tom Bartsch...
Hello Tom,
I am writing with concern that a magazine and website I have grown to trust and subscribe to has completely let me down. How is it possible for your magazine has the audacity to allow CSC Collectibles to run a full page ad. Advertising ridiculous prices and pictures of autographed items that scream forgery. Are you not aware of your past publications in regards to Operation Bullpen? And the fact that you are now supporting these individuals that are poisoning the hobby? You should know who Chris Morales is and that his certifications are completely bogus. Please let me know when you plan to pull the ad or expect the backlash to be much worse. Please check www.net54baseball.com for additional complaints regarding this ad. James Graham Jgmp123@yahoo.com
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Not that I expect to get a response, but additional letters to the editor may force their hand.
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You know we fight these m----- f-----s like crazy but then you see an ad like this and know that they will get some response for Koufax and Mays at $45 and $95. And if collectors buy it at those prices, sometimes I think they get what they deserve.
As I have said many times they are selling for resale,to other lowlifes, but I would assume an ad in that disgusting dust magnet SCD would get some collector response.
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It took forever for SCD to get rid of coaches corner after lots of people complained. they didnt want to.
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Burczyk was the brainchild of a certain person, and unfortunately, the word forensic fooled tens of thousands of people (not collectors) into believing that crap had to be authentic.
I would love to see Calamusa produce proof that Burczyk examined tens of thousands of Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, etc., autographs back in the early 1990's and yet his name (Burczyk) was never mentioned back then. That was quite a Houdini act. It's difficult for me to believe that anyone would still sell that crap with a Burczyk COA. But then again, there are still buyers of that crap out there. Maybe Calamusa can prove to us when and how he acquired the so-called Scoreboard inventory he mentions in his full-page ad. Last edited by thetruthisoutthere; 05-22-2012 at 05:07 PM. |
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i was pretty disapointed in scd for allowing this ad to be published... i can't believe that they are unaware of csc and morales...
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Yeah, Chris Morales and his $10-$20 Forensic Examination Rate.
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he emailed me and said they did a private signing with ali with his daughter present, when i asked for the day and location, he all of the sudden changed his story and just said the words "scoreboard" changed his story when the first one didn't work.
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OK, forgive my ignorance, but I'm asking this seriously:
There is no actual person named Nick Burczyk?? (or whatever his first name is.) Ken earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com Last edited by earlywynnfan; 05-22-2012 at 07:06 PM. Reason: type |
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I actually own stuff with Nicholas Burczyk stickers. The stickers all read 04/23/92. As a matter of fact, two of the pieces I own have a Burczyk sticker, a YMC sticker and a COA from Chris Morales. It's amazing that no one heard of Nicholas Burczyk until a few years ago. The poor guy has had his name dragged through the mud. He never examined any sports autographs. |
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There has been speculation that he is dead or in a nursing home somewhere completely unaware his name has been used on these useless certs.
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Response from Tom.....
Hi James,
* *Thanks for your e-mail. Yes, we are quite aware of Morales and his reputation in the hobby. The running of such an ad was due to poor communication to say the least and won't be happening again. Thank you. Tom Bartsch SCD
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How about desperate for advertising? I would bet if they were not called out on this by Net54 that CSC would have had a chance to be a regular advertiser. Not that it means much now, considering their subscriber base is probably 5% of what it used to be. Good work guys. Good to see that people are taking action.
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Richard,
I couldn't agree more...The company is struggling and a paper medium is dying. I have to assume they will try to figure some way to take money from csc.
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"What I have done after my baseball career -- being able to help people with their lives and getting their lives back on track so they become productive human beings again -- that means more to me than all the things I did in baseball" - Don Newcombe https://www.collectorfocus.com/collection/jgmp123 |
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If HOFAUTOS is correct that CSC Collectibles was advertising in SCD last year, I think that speaks volumes. |
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This company has way more than 1500 signed ali signed photos in my opinion, about 40 or 50 different poses, multiple sizes. they must have thousands upon thousands, they have them authenticated by burczyk, morales, stat, and maybe gai.
for them to claim they are 'scoreboard' ali's is laughable. they don't provide any scoreboard certs, even though those aren't proof of anything, they don't have any, they have equally worthless burczyk certs with no pictures or matching stickers, no chain of custody. Last edited by travrosty; 05-23-2012 at 07:51 AM. |
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And take a look at this FUGLY Koufax ball from their website.
Man wouldn't you just love to have this on display? Samly Koufx? And it is $150 on the website. Guess you should order through the SCD ad if you want the good price . This is so painfully drawn, looks like Samly is only making about $30 an hour .
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communication to say the least and won't be happening again. Thank you." Well guess what, it did happen again. On page 57 of the SCD issue dated August 10, 2012, Volume 40, NO. 17, is another full page ad from CSC Collectibles. SCD-CC2.jpg SCD-CC3.jpg |
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Chris, guess full page ad revenue wins
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Absolutely, Jay. Just think of all those full-page Coach's Corner ads in SCD all those years. Sickening!!!!
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chris how do they get away with it unreal .
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OMG,,, what a shock, shocked to find SCD shilling for their very few advertisers.
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Mr. Bartsch never replied. Then earlier this year I noticed the CSC Collectibles full-page ad. I emailed Mr. Bartsch about the CSC Collectibles ad and never got a reply. James Graham, a Net54 member, did receive a reply. Yes, I bashed SCD fervently during my days of my YouTube videos. They deserved every bit of bashing they received by myself and others. Mr. Bartsch replied to James Graham with The running of such an ad was due to poor communication to say the least and won't be happening again. Well, Mr. Bartsch, it did happen again. Poor communication again? Are we to really believe that? Last edited by thetruthisoutthere; 08-01-2012 at 12:30 PM. |
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I talked with a former staffer at SCD recently, and he told me how draining it was to check his values at the door and watch CC get so much advertising. He realized his paychecks depended on garbage. He said the whole feeling at the place was depressing.
Ken |
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