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Old 12-12-2022, 02:56 PM
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Default Blackless Glavine Bonds Acker others?

Hello 1st post here.
I figure the knowledge base here could help me out with a question or two.

I've haven't been collecting since I was a kid back in the 80's. Everything is very different. I started again about 3 months ago with my 9 year old.

Anyhow,
I bought a sealed vending case of 1990 Topps or I thought it was sealed. Turns out some of the boxes were skimmed of some cards.

As my son and I were going though the boxes, I noticed a strange Tom Galvine and other cards with a lack of black ink. So I looked it up and discovered the blackless issue. Most of the 12,000 cards all seem to have some sort of issue. A few with big white swaths and others with black border issues or serious fading, some even look light green. Some of the know blackless cards are also in the case but a slight different blackless.

Attached are some photos, a quick grab of cards from the boxes. I haven't gone through the case in total yet.

Tom Glavine
Please note the 1/3 of the card where the Topps logo is. The streak from top to bottom.

Jim Acker
See arrow in picture. Also card is less black on the right side, Topps logo very faint.

Barry Bonds
Breaks in the black border and lighter black areas

Andy Van Slyke
Similar issue breaks in black border

Questions;
What's the definition of a true blackless card?
Does the black thin border line have to be broken in certain areas?
I was going to junk em if they a just garbage cards?
But almost all the cards in the case, so far, have had some sort of black color issue. Even found some cards with long blue swaths.


Anyone willing to advise.

A couple others I found after taking a few minutes ...Turn back the clock, Fred Lynn, Jody Davis, Tom O'Malley ... but again it's most cards wit ha larger portion of black ink used.

Thank you in advance for any help.

G.
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Old 12-12-2022, 03:57 PM
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I would say that blackless 1990 Topps are a misnomer. The errors that are well known are “partial blackless”. This is the complete absence of black on partial parts of certain cards due to a much hypotheticized printing error of some kind with an obstruction or a dirty litho blanket.

The errors you have found would not fall under the partial blackless label to me as they are “blacklessing” or light/fading ink. Likely due to much of the same reason that would have caused the partial blackless issue at root of the NNOF Thomas.

I can assure you that this a completely different run than that due to the interesting addition of Jeff Acker. On the partial blackless sheets that card is blackless in the lower left due to its sheet position next to Frank Thomas. Yours is low ink on the complete opposite side of the card encompassing the Topps logo. Definitely interesting, as it is a completely different issue likely due a another dusty or dirty rubber transfer during the offset litho.
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Old 12-12-2022, 05:01 PM
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As Justin said, those aren't partial blackless. The actual errors are stark and have large swaths of no black ink. You have run of the mill low ink variations.

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Old 12-12-2022, 06:38 PM
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that's great thanks for the information
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Old 12-13-2022, 09:41 AM
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Thanks for posting Strike. I like seeing oddities, run of some mill or not
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Ben N and Justin are in heaven
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