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How to tell if a 1954 card is original or reprint
Might be a silly question , but I'm asking anyway.
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A reprint is going to be glossy. The real cards have a certain texture to them that just feels old. I know that's not a great way to explain what I mean, but if you have any other 50s cards feel them and compare.
Last edited by packs; 07-07-2015 at 02:38 PM. |
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Not sure if a black light will help.
Last edited by Econteachert205; 07-07-2015 at 02:41 PM. |
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The modern reprints I have seen include the top border, which was not an original feature.
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Thanks for all the info. I just see to many 54 Ford, Snider, Mays and Spahn on Ebay that are described Original, but seem to be too darn cheap if so.
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The player (in action) also should have clear visibilty, like in the hands, not just a complete black glob.
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Here is the first in a series of images. Don't worry about the player depicted or the condition of this particular example. Aaron, Banks, other stars, minor stars, and all the commons were created using the same printing methods.
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Here's a closer view from the upper left portion of the card front. Take note of the, "p" and the blue cap along the right hand side.
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Here is another image of the same portion. Note how the blue cap has been printed using a different process, as compared to the, "p.".
Last edited by Eric72; 07-07-2015 at 06:08 PM. |
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The next image concentrates on solid ink color passes. Note the seamless transition between black & red - and - the not so seamless multiple color passes which include a sliver of yellow. By the way, white should be discussed separately; however, I will refrain from going into that here.
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Almost done here. Attached is a larger view of the same card. Note the difference between solid inks and half-tone printing:
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Here is my last post on this topic.
Counterfeits and reprints of 1954 Topps baseball cards will often present with no difference between the player images and logos, etc. While the half-tone printing and solid inks might be easy to reproduce, combining them would be difficult. 61 years ago, printing technology was quite different. Replicating this in 2015 is harder than one might think. Best regards, Eric Last edited by Eric72; 07-07-2015 at 09:47 PM. |
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Thank you very much for all the information.
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54 Reprints
Wow great job Eric. One other item which is important and seemingly harder to fake is the paperstock used in 54s. I think Keith (con40) in another post originally mentioned that cards printed from '52 through '91 were printed on clay coated chipboard called C1S. A white high-gloss paper was added, along with a coating of clay, on top of the chip board which allowed easier printing of high quality products. This isnt easy to reproduce currently since it involves 2 types of paperstock etc. if you look at the edges of the card or even the worn edges, you can see the two layers.
I was fooled once 9 years ago when i bought a fake 51 Mantle. The seller had recreated the exact look of a chipboard stock on the back along with wax stains. Fooled me in scans and pjotos, but not when i had the card in hand. One of the few times ive been fooled. Best of luck. Z |
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I know this doesn't do you much good unless you have the card in hand and can do a comparison with another card of known age, but the reprints of the 1954 set are smaller than the originals. The originals measure 2 5/8 in by 3 3/4 in. Reprints will be the same size as a modern card, 2 1/2 by 3 1/2.
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What drew me to this, though, is the fact that you bring up an excellent point. The top layer of stock used for '54 Topps Baseball does have an interesting quality...it was white. |
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More to follow tomorrow, when I shall have more time. Best regards, Eric |
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Sorry for the delay. Here is the next image. It is a close view of where the background meets the team logo. Again, the logo was printed using solid color passes. In this case, there was a slight alignment issue. However, the idea is the same.
Because we're discussing a white background, this differs slightly from the "seamless transition between black & red" mentioned in post #11. More on that later. Last edited by Eric72; 07-10-2015 at 05:41 PM. |
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Here is a view in which the half-tone printing meets the white background. The player image is created in the same manner on this card as the 1st one shown. There is a difference regarding the background, though. Again, more on that later.
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On 1954 Topps Baseball cards, there is a second player image I have not yet introduced into the conversation. It is black & white and a bit smaller than the color "portrait." As evidenced by the view here, this was also created using half-tone printing.
Speaking of white...rest assured...I shall get to my point on that in a moment. |
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