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Update: What would you do...
So, looks like I purchased a card that was submitted to PSA by Gary Moser and then sold to me through PWCC. The card in question is
42885921 1912 T227 Series Of Champions Ty Cobb PSA 1.5 FR (PWCC) 4/9/2019 ebay item: 401739877633 Curious as to what you would do if you owned this card? ask for a full refund? keep the card? Any help is appreciated. Thank you! Last edited by T_Hamilton; 06-05-2019 at 09:09 AM. |
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I'd return...Hard to see how any card with that lineage holds its value.
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Last edited by jp1216; 06-04-2019 at 09:19 AM. |
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I'd keep it. Looks accurately graded assuming it's not altered and has nice eye appeal for the grade.
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Huh? Did he buy this one and not alter it. That would be interesting.
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It displays very nice for a 1.5 grade. I think the altering could have been soaking perhaps.
I am so bamboozled on what to do with the card... and so angry that someone has ruined the hobby i love. |
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I guess I should have said trimmed and not altered. Not really seeing an issue with a possible soak. How many times have members posted threads on the board asking for help on how to soak?
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He apparently uses a chemical bath -- not water -- and it affects the integrity of the cardboard and often seems to lighten the ink on the back. Would be nice to see the before, but I'm sure the guys over at BO would've found it when they were able to find the other two. Maybe it's still on its way...
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Think about the scarcity factor before deciding
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Maybe PSA would assign this a "Pedigree flip" like the Lionel Carter Collection ones, but this one could say "Gary Moser Un-altered". |
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Between how short the 3 is and the fact SGC only gave it an A, I would look to review it if you can't return it. And I would look to SGC. The problem with PSA review is that if they missed something once it's likely to happen twice, and they have financial incentive to bless it again.
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Also, you would need a before picture, I think, to know if it has been messed with. The stain removals on cards don't upset me as much as the other things, but that is just me. And many, if not most vintage collectors, don't consider soaking in water to be a nefarious act. It should be counted off as anything else but to me, it wouldn't mean a non-numeric grade. I should also add, if it will make the OP always nervous, then it is an easy decision to sell it.
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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=1642 https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2408 I am sure it has been cleaned, and given the amount of text fading on the reverse, not likely with water. The creases have also been pressed to make the card not look so rough. Soaked, cleaned and pressed. No doubt.
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Agree with T206 Collector...
Though it appears nice for the grade, odds are it has had some problems "lessened" by means of alteration. Does not looked trimmed, but may have had some color added. Near-impossible to tell without having it in-hand. For your own peace of mind, I'd suggest returning it. You'll probably NEVER be at peace with the card now, and will look more at the treated flaws than the card itself. What a shame. Last edited by perezfan; 06-04-2019 at 10:01 AM. |
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I believe this is the before.
The scan here is overly bright, but the creases don't look much different. Maybe just moved from SGC to PSA? I'd save the scans/auctions, print them and keep them with the card. If any work has been done, it wasn't much. http://www.milehighcardco.com/1912_M...-LOT60474.aspx |
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