Let's welcome Charlie Barokas to the Billion Dollar Fraud!

Fuddjcal · #1 01-25-2020, 09:44 AM

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1348201

Let's all give this jackass a nice warm welcome to PSA's Cavalcade of Stars!!!

Exhibitman · #2 01-25-2020, 09:59 AM

Is there going to be a card set?

Fuddjcal · #3 01-25-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Is there going to be a card set?

probably a 7 series, 700+ card set

I just want the entire set in PSA 10's. I will wait for 5 months like an ignoramus until it POPS!

samosa4u · #4 01-25-2020, 11:27 AM

I think it's great what BODA has done, but don't these guys have anything better to do than to just sit there examining COMMONS all day long? I seriously don't give two sh*ts about Billy Cox and Gene Ronzani.

I want to see something BIG, man! Let's see some trimmed WATERFRONT cards, guys! Show the world some trimmed Mantles, Mays, Robinsons, Ruths, Gehrigs, Cobbs, Clementes, Aarons, etc.

Republicaninmass · #5 01-25-2020, 11:32 AM

Happened to see one card in the last page was like a 19k gainer.

Johnny630 · #6 01-25-2020, 11:32 AM

Johnny Unitas this broke my heart!!!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...90614&page=254

Registry is False

Pop Report is False

MarketPlace is False and Highly Manipulated

rats60 · #7 01-25-2020, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Johnny Unitas this broke my heart!!!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...90614&page=254

Registry is False

Pop Report is False

MarketPlace is False and Highly Manipulated

This is the sad thing. A NM card is special. Now it is ruined.

Phil68 · #8 01-25-2020, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Johnny Unitas this broke my heart!!!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...90614&page=254

Registry is False

Pop Report is False

MarketPlace is False and Highly Manipulated

With you, Johnny. The Unitas was a gorgeous card just as it was. SMDH

btcarfagno · #9 01-25-2020, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

I think it's great what BODA has done, but don't these guys have anything better to do than to just sit there examining COMMONS all day long? I seriously don't give two sh*ts about Billy Cox and Gene Ronzani.

I want to see something BIG, man! Let's see some trimmed WATERFRONT cards, guys! Show the world some trimmed Mantles, Mays, Robinsons, Ruths, Gehrigs, Cobbs, Clementes, Aarons, etc.

Have you not been paying attention? The number of five figure cards is staggering. And it's just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Trimmers are going to Target lower value cards because "working on" a card already worth four figures has too much downside. But they are out there if you have been paying attention.

samosa4u · #10 01-25-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Trimmers are going to Target lower value cards because "working on" a card already worth four figures has too much downside.

Yeah, this is what I figured. Almost every card that has been outed by BODA is a common. It's definitely a lot more difficult to trim a waterfront card and get away with it. For example, if you trim a Goudey Ruth, then it's definitely going to get measured and looked at by three or four different graders.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #11 01-25-2020, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

I seriously don't give two sh*ts about Billy Cox

Maybe you should try getting to know me before putting your line in the sand.

Fuddjcal · #12 01-25-2020, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I think it's great what BODA has done, but don't these guys have anything better to do than to just sit there examining COMMONS all day long? I seriously don't give two sh*ts about Billy Cox and Gene Ronzani.

I want to see something BIG, man! Let's see some trimmed WATERFRONT cards, guys! Show the world some trimmed Mantles, Mays, Robinsons, Ruths, Gehrigs, Cobbs, Clementes, Aarons, etc.

What about the Johnny Unitas they make 18K on. Or the Mick "Ten" glehoff for 600.

That's the beauty of the gig. make 700 on some no name and move on. It's all in the POP my friend, All in the POP

midmo · #13 01-26-2020, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I want to see something BIG, man! Let's see some trimmed WATERFRONT cards, guys! Show the world some trimmed Mantles, Mays, Robinsons, Ruths, Gehrigs, Cobbs, Clementes, Aarons, etc.

Stampsfan · #14 01-27-2020, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by midmo

There are tons of them. I just did a quick browse of one of the blowout threads...

Is that all you could come up with in a short time? Sheeesh.

1952boyntoncollector · #15 01-26-2020, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I think it's great what BODA has done, but don't these guys have anything better to do than to just sit there examining COMMONS all day long? I seriously don't give two sh*ts about Billy Cox and Gene Ronzani.

I want to see something BIG, man! Let's see some trimmed WATERFRONT cards, guys! Show the world some trimmed Mantles, Mays, Robinsons, Ruths, Gehrigs, Cobbs, Clementes, Aarons, etc.

funny 'WATERFRONT' is my lingo on this forum for years..

Phil68 · #16 01-25-2020, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1348201

Let's all give this jackass a nice warm welcome to PSA's Cavalcade of Stars!!!

Chuck,
I appreciate your humor. You made me laugh at something that really bums me out. We have to laugh. Meanwhile, I guess the take-away is "don't stop at the holder--LOOK at the card really closely. The holder is only the first step and nowhere near foolproof."

the 'stache · #17 01-27-2020, 07:06 PM

Before I go throw up, anybody want to end this craziness, and just give us a working definition of "waterfront"? I've been here a while, and have never heard of the term, either. And a quick search of the term on Google and our forum yields several results, but no definition. Or, is this an ongoing inside joke, like Snipe hunting?

It seems, on first glance, to refer to ultra in demand cards in highest condition. That would make sense, as oceanfront property is typically the creme de la creme. Just looking back at the last 50 some years, this would include the Joe Namath '65 Topps rookie, a '79 Wayne Gretzky rookie (the Canadian Oh-Pee-Chee issue), the '86 Fleer Michael Jordan, whatever the most in demand rookie card for Tom Brady would be-maybe the 2000 Playoff Contenders with the on card certified auto. That's one I saw a lot when I started prospecting. What else? The Jeter '93 Upper Deck SP foil card in prime condition goes for a ridiculous amount. I expect the 2009 Mike Trout Bowman Chrome certified auto moves into that category, eventually. I feel like such an idiot having sold mine, but medical bills don't allow one to be sentimental. Going back a bit further, the '52 Topps Mantle and Mays obviously. '54 Topps rookie for Aaron, '55 for Clemente. The '48 Leaf Jackie Robinson rookie. '51 Parkhurst Gordie Howe, whatever Bobby Orr's rookie might be. '58 Topps Jim Brown, '57 Topps Starr and Unitas.

What else?

If we go back to the era(s) we all love and collect, we're looking at the E90-1 American Caramel Shoeless Joe Jackson, the Wagner T206, the '33 Goudey Lajoie, the '39 Play Ball Ted Williams. Ruth's rookie (I forget, the '16 Famous & Barr?), various Cobb T206 cards, portraits as well as on/off shoulder varieties, the Walter Johnson portrait, '35 National Chicle Nagurski, Ruth and Gehrig Goudey cards, the Cracker Jack issues of Christy Matthewson, Johnson, Jackson-especially the '14 releases which are ultra condition sensitive.

Somebody just clarify for us, please.

1952boyntoncollector · #18 01-27-2020, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Before I go throw up, anybody want to end this craziness, and just give us a working definition of "waterfront"? I've been here a while, and have never heard of the term, either. And a quick search of the term on Google and our forum yields several results, but no definition. Or, is this an ongoing inside joke, like Snipe hunting?

.

What else?

Somebody just clarify for us, please.

I would think there are waterfront and there are waterfront. The ruth rookie etc is not something most of the community can afford or even afford to invest in but i i think a 10k card many more can, i would define a waterfront card as a card many people have had in their collection or a chance to get at one time or another....i know i never had a chance to get an T206 wagner but i did on some goudey ruth's etc.

.this was a quote i had about the green cobb being a waterfront card..

Default PWCC green cobb psa 5.5 going through the roof
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...4AAOSw9mFWMm5z

bidding over $14,000 which has to be way over SMR... when I had two PSA 4s nicely centered Green cobbs..all I would hear about is SMR this and SMR that....

the waterfront properties really taking off...!

CMIZ5290 · #19 01-28-2020, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I would think there are waterfront and there are waterfront. The ruth rookie etc is not something most of the community can afford or even afford to invest in but i i think a 10k card many more can, i would define a waterfront card as a card many people have had in their collection or a chance to get at one time or another....i know i never had a chance to get an T206 wagner but i did on some goudey ruth's etc.

.this was a quote i had about the green cobb being a waterfront card..

Default PWCC green cobb psa 5.5 going through the roof
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...4AAOSw9mFWMm5z

bidding over $14,000 which has to be way over SMR... when I had two PSA 4s nicely centered Green cobbs..all I would hear about is SMR this and SMR that....

the waterfront properties really taking off...!

Always got an answer don't you?
...

Johnny630 · #20 01-28-2020, 06:32 PM

Did anyone see this new one Discovered On Blowout
BODA has done amazing forensics work

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1349101

Will REA have to Buy Back and Sue PSA for Damages or will Newport Beach Buy Back? Or Make The Consignor Buy it Back

PSA is TEFLON WATCH THEM GET AWAY LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

Fuddjcal · #21 01-28-2020, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Did anyone see this new one Discovered On Blowout
BODA has done amazing forensics work

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1349101

Will REA have to Buy Back and Sue PSA for Damages or will Newport Beach Buy Back? Or Make The Consignor Buy it Back

PSA is TEFLON WATCH THEM GET AWAY LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

Home on the waterfront

.

There are no damages so you can't add it to the billion dollar fraud, sorry. Doesn't count. No one has to pay.

It looks like our very own Desert Ice Sports is being looked into next as the possible addition to the "PSA Cavalcade of Stars". Something fishy there, they say?

Attention" ALL LEGAL morons, you know who you are...Please keep submitting cards and waiting 5 months for it to pop like an imbecile so we can keep this fine company in business. They react so well to the collector in everything they do to stop fraud. Newsflash: They are corrupt to the core. It is obvious to anyone with a sliver of a brain, like myself

. har har harde har har. The joke is on ALL OF US.

Another great job by BODA!

samosa4u · #22 01-29-2020, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Did anyone see this new one Discovered On Blowout
BODA has done amazing forensics work

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1349101

Will REA have to Buy Back and Sue PSA for Damages or will Newport Beach Buy Back? Or Make The Consignor Buy it Back

PSA is TEFLON WATCH THEM GET AWAY LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

LOL! People usually pay no attention to me, but it looks like BODA did read my earlier posts! They wrote the following:

Did You Win This $27,600 "Waterfront" Satchel Paige Card in REA's December Auction?

Oh no, not a Waterfront card!

Too funny! And yes, that Satchel Paige SP RC definitely is a waterfront card! Nice catch, guys!

1952boyntoncollector · #23 01-29-2020, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Did anyone see this new one Discovered On Blowout
BODA has done amazing forensics work

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1349101

Will REA have to Buy Back and Sue PSA for Damages or will Newport Beach Buy Back? Or Make The Consignor Buy it Back

PSA is TEFLON WATCH THEM GET AWAY LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

the term waterfront is used and also on comments in that forum....

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