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I'm sure some of you have seen this, but on the PSA/DNA site, they have an example of Lefty Grove's 1925 signature. But the signature clearly says "Groves" with an "s".
Does anybody know if he ever signed his last name "Groves"? I did a quick search on his name, but I haven't come up with anything that indicates he changed his name from Groves to Grove. http://www.psacard.com/AutographFact...23/lefty-grove http://www.psacard.com/ResourceImage...ignature-3.jpg |
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That is horrible. That isn't a Lefty Grove signature. Look at the e's. He never did the loop style, even in the middle of his first name. So why would he change both his name and the way he writes his "e"s/ Answer: He wouldn't
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Can't say if this signature is real or not -
The scholarship goes back and forth on whether he was born Grove or Groves. I think the most recent book has his birth name with the "s" and his relatives used that spelling as well. He did go by "Groves" when he was with the Baltimore Orioles beginning in 1920. If you read the newspapers from the time or look in the Spalding Guides it has the "s" spelling. The super-rare 1921 Tip Top Bread card has it as "Groves". Sportswriters left off the "s" so many times it just officially became his accepted name sometime before he joined the Athletics. As late as 1927 he was still referred to as "Groves". |
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I concur with Gary. I read one of Lefty's biographies (by Kaplan), and indeed his last name was Groves...but as he started to become well known (per the book, after his 4th year in the majors) most baseball publications started leaving off the "s" and I suppose he just went with it. I agree with the earlier post that the "e's" don't reflect what is seen in almost all Lefty Grove signatures, but since this was quite early and I cannot think of any other early signatrures to compare, I would lean towards saying this early signature is "most likely genuine"
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OK. So he did change his name, but to me changing the entire way he signs a letter so drastically, seems a bit far for me. Perhaps it did happen, but would seem to be unlikely.
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Both Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams changed their signatures dramatically...it happens
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