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Ty Cobb - Not a Cheating Bigot or Dirty Player - new biography
http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/book...wkN/story.html
Sounds like he has been misjudged on several fronts. |
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Ty Cobb - Not a Cheating Bigot or Dirty Player - new biography
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I guess he was right. Last edited by 4815162342; 05-10-2015 at 09:13 AM. |
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You can read what those who played with and against him had to say about him long after he is gone and they are now old men with nothing to prove or hide in "The Glory of Their Times." Even better is to hear it directly from them on the audio edition. In general, Cobb was not well liked at all by his contemporaries, got into a lot of fights on and off the field, and had some old-fashioned racial ideas--"Still fighting the Civil War" is how Sam Crawford put it. However, to a man they also defend his base-running as hard-nosed and aggressive, not cheating or dirty.
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To be fair, Crawford to me often comes across as the "Cobb"-like personality. In "The Glory of Their Times" Crawford seems anti-social to a degree. Also, it must have been a tough situation for him during his playing days where the young Cobb came to Detroit and received all the headlines. Jealousy may have been an issue for Crawford. Not to mention, did Crawford join in heavily in the poor rookie treatment of Cobb? Interesting too that accounts exist that Cobb lobbied hard on behalf of Crawford to help get him elected to the HOF As with most things it seems, with Cobb, it's complicated But I would caution the use of Crawford as a character witness for/against Cobb at least to some degree |
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For the record, here's Buck O'Neil's take. If I was able to sit down and have a conversation with any former player or manager, living or deceased, I would probably choose this gentleman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7zYopq-dFs Last edited by Gobucsmagic74; 05-11-2015 at 07:06 PM. |
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Davy Jones offers interesting insights, would like to know more about his take on Cobb
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His legend is growing, and deservedly so. May your collecting fill you with joy, Larry |
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We thought Stump's fiction had been largely debunked years ago.
Cobb may have been no angel, but what's to say the ancient old-timers bad-mouthing him were? We've known bitter, sour old men who've held grudges for fifty years and more (we're some of them).
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The "Cobb was a racist" thing isn't just from Stump (who was a fraud) and it's not just from old guys airing a 50-year old grudge. |
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My all-time favorite player and to me the greatest hitter and greatest PLAYER of ALL TIME. I don't know how I'd feel about this book being true. I definitely would like to read it. I highly doubt that he was anything but what he has been portrayed as though.
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Cobb was an awesome business man that's for sure.....
He did really well for himself after his playing days. |
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Cobb was also an extremely intelligent and well-read man. I had the opportunity to review a couple dozen original Cobb full letters to a female fan and he does nothing but write about the weather and the several books he was reading.
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with Cobb being my favorite HOFer this book is a must buy and should be an interesting read and comparison to Stumps book.
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For a much different perspective into Cobb, this interview with his grandson is very interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaA5KpAkKzc Last edited by jlehma13; 05-11-2015 at 09:54 AM. |
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