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What is Carlos Beltran's rookie card?
What a mess LOL. He is in 1995 Topps Traded, but it isn't his picture, it's Juan Lebron. He's pictured on Lebron's card. He has a 1995 SP Prospects but it's a minor league card. He next appears in some 1997 Bowman issues. So?
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1995 TOPPS TRADED CARLOS BELTRAN 18T according to the PSA Future HOF set registry. I tend to agree. He's the one labeled on the card, even if the picture isn't him.
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I guess that's right but it seems stupid to buy a card with someone else pictured.
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You can always get both the Beltran and the Lebron cards and keep them as a pair. But I agree that the one with his name is his rookie.
As far as the future HOF registry, I don’t think his career numbers are as good as Harold Baines. And we all know what people think of his induction. |
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Beltran JAWS Center Field (9th): 69.6 career WAR / 44.4 7yr-peak WAR / 57.0 JAWS Baines JAWS Right Field (74th): 38.7 career WAR / 21.4 7yr-peak WAR / 30.1 JAWS
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The 1995 traded is considered his primary rookie, even with someone else pictured. It was dirt cheap about three years ago when I got mine. Once it went into pre HOF registry, I imagine it picked up.
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As a shop owner, I have considered it misleading (at best) to label someone as a future HOF. I don’t think there is any place for that in the hobby. Some of the people on the list have very little chance of getting in and haven’t gotten much support. I feel bad for anyone buying a Miguel Tejada, Juan Gonzalez, Todd Helton, Gary Sheffield or even Gil Hodges Rookie with the thought he is going to be in the hall some day because PSA said so.
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How can someone's RC be a card with someone elses pic on it? Just bc Topps made an error and PSA anoited it so with its magic registry wand?
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I think the market would have made that choice irrespective of PSA. I want no part of that card, but I think the name controls the picture.
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So we are really collecting words in this instance.
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Who else are you buying? I did this a few years ago, ticking all of the guys in the Hall of Stats and guys destined for it. Grabbed Lofton, Edmonds, Abreu, etc. Fun to collect for sure.
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In that spirit I've bought, let's see, Vizquel, Moyer, Sheffield, Walker, Belle, Mattingly, Gooden, Canseco, Schilling, off the top of my head. Nomar. Dwight Evans. Tiant. Munson.
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Nice! I don't have a Moyer yet but would like one. Actually it's because of this second and third tier rookie hunt, I bought Harold Baines in PSA 9 for ten bucks....
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More non HOFers (leaving roids out of it) I have -- Maris. Dave Parker. Strawberry. Oliva. Dick Allen. Kaat. Tommy John. May add a Lou Whitaker and Bobby Grich.
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Spend enough time on here and you'll end up hunting for Sal Bando, Ted Simmons, Reggie Smith...
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If you like WAR as a stat Lou is at 75.1 and Rolen is at 70.2.
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Damn, I may have to reconsider then. I guess there's something to consistency?
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Harold Baines fares extremely poorly on Hall of Stats.
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Rick Reuschel and Kevin Appier never passed this sniff test for me.
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