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Old 03-19-2013, 08:14 PM
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This Leaf Masterpiece card was just listed on Ebay and is stated to be authenticated by either PSA and/or JSA (which I believe is also a requirement of Leaf for them to include the cut auto in a card).

I've been in the market for a Ruth auto for awhile, but am nowhere near an expert. To my untrained eye, the Ruth auto appears to be very slowly written (which is not common for the Ruth auto's I've seen).

My question is this: Is it likely that it was slowly written because Ruth signed it much later in life?

Trying to educate/protect myself as a consumer. Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Leaf-Ex...item4d0ac96268
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:17 PM
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:24 PM
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That Ruth is awful. As much as I dislike the alphabet guys, I guarantee JSA never approved it.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:25 PM
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I really don't see anything good about that Ruth...well, I take that back..they did manage to spell it correctly.
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Wow, that is awful. Looks like a child attempted that. That one is hard to believe that a card company actually made something with anything that bad looking and Beckett slabbed it. I wonder if they even looked at the sig or do they just take Leaf's word on the authentication part of it?
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:21 PM
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That autograph was signed by someone who knew how to spell Babe Ruth but I don't think the Babe signed it.
Besides the seller who has said that the autograph was examined by PSA or JSA. It does not appear to state that on the card and there are so many bad autographs out there from the card companies, this is another one in a long trail.
My thoughts about the TPA's are well known but I find it hard to believe that either one of the big two examined this horrid Ruth. That makes two nice things I have said about them today. <shudder> .
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Old 03-20-2013, 05:03 AM
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Blind faith in any authenticator, esp the "guys with the big ad budget" will often get u burned. I could do a better Ruth than that..As said, YECH and HORRIFIC
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This Leaf Masterpiece card was just listed on Ebay and is stated to be authenticated by either PSA and/or JSA (which I believe is also a requirement of Leaf for them to include the cut auto in a card).

I've been in the market for a Ruth auto for awhile, but am nowhere near an expert. To my untrained eye, the Ruth auto appears to be very slowly written (which is not common for the Ruth auto's I've seen).

My question is this: Is it likely that it was slowly written because Ruth signed it much later in life?

Trying to educate/protect myself as a consumer. Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Leaf-Ex...item4d0ac96268
Babe Ruth's signature was NEVER slowly written even later in life and when he was very sick, Except some signatures you begin to see in 1947 and 1948 that were ghost signed by his wife. And even they are not what I'd call slowly written , and Usually easily identifiable. The baseball displayed at the Hall of Fame as the "last Baseball Signed by Babe Ruth" is signed by his wife.

One of the last things he did before he died was take a trip throughout Florida with Claire he attended many public events and signed alot of autographs , I've seen things documented to have been signed during those events and they are ROBUST. Shortly after the trip he was re admited to the hospital where he died.
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I think its interesting that these major companies are not (thoroughly) doing their due diligence prior to putting these products together... This is obviously the chase card that drive traffic at retail... This is obviously a very bad mark against the manufacturers reputation...
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:43 AM
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Was this card an actual "chase" card or one of those Leaf promotions where you can send in your own item and pay like $45 to get it encased and labeled 1/1?
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:34 AM
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I don't believe this was a chase card....rather one of the $45 specials. But I've heard that Leaf does require authentication by only JSA or PSA...so I'm assuming it has been authenticated by one of the big boys (but you never know).
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agreed, they do require psa or jsa authentication, so it seems that either psa or jsa certified this piece of carp.
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The seller of this "1/1" Babe Ruth purchased this on EBay. Here is the link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Babe-Ruth-Ne...p2047675.l2557


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GREAT Detective work on that obvious poor Forgery, Chris Sir.

While looking at the listing , I had this one pop up...Is it real? IT MUST BE, because of all the goobledegook Spectral poop thingy...And Madison Towers is so prestegeous.

We would take the ad a bit more seriously, if he had spelled PRESTIGIOUS correctly.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/September-19...70987336648%26

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Babe Ruth's signature was NEVER slowly written even later in life and when he was very sick, Except some signatures you begin to see in 1947 and 1948 that were ghost signed by his wife. And even they are not what I'd call slowly written , and Usually easily identifiable. The baseball displayed at the Hall of Fame as the "last Baseball Signed by Babe Ruth" is signed by his wife.

One of the last things he did before he died was take a trip throughout Florida with Claire he attended many public events and signed alot of autographs , I've seen things documented to have been signed during those events and they are ROBUST. Shortly after the trip he was re admited to the hospital where he died.
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Appreciate the information. I've never come across a Ruth so sloooowly written. Thought maybe I was missing something obvious.
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