Antiques Roadshow appraisal 1/3/22 AND 1/24

[ooo-ribay]

I saw this last night. The appraiser was Simeon Lipman who, I believe, is pretty knowledgeable. Anyway, Simeon appraised this 1918 calendar at $20-30,000. That seemed high to me. What do you guys think? I'm also not even sure it's real because the owner said he "got it online for between $200-250"...

[BobC]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I saw this last night. The appraiser was Simeon Lipman who, I believe, is pretty knowledgeable. Anyway, Simeon appraised this 1918 calendar at $20-30,000. That seemed high to me. What do you guys think? I'm also not even sure it's real because the owner said he "got it online for between $200-250"...

Not so sure it would go for that much either. Usually those kind of prices only start for items that are actually authenticated by a recognized third party. Nothing against Antiques Roadshow (love the show), but have never really seen someone sell something like that based solely on an Antiques Roadshow appraisal. But knowing me, I'm probably wrong. LOL

However, I seem to remember there was a thread on here not too long ago about someone on Ebay selling items similar to what was shown on AR, and I thought the consensus on here was that the item was a fake, or just some fantasy piece. Any possibility this could be the case with this AR item? I'll have to see if I can find the thread.

[murphusa]

1917 calendar with 1918 dates. Some calendars may have January of the next year but not February, He overpaid at $250.00 IMO

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by BobC

However, I seem to remember there was a thread on here not too long ago about someone on Ebay selling items similar to what was shown on AR, and I thought the consensus on here was that the item was a fake, or just some fantasy piece. Any possibility this could be the case with this AR item? I'll have to see if I can find the thread.

The one in Moe's thread was not nearly as well done. I also thought of this thread when I saw the one on AR.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=309794

Originally Posted by murphusa

1917 calendar with 1918 dates. Some calendars may have January of the next year but not February, He overpaid at $250.00 IMO

Hmmmm....hadn't really noticed that.

[Leon]

If it's real that estimate is too high.,

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[Carter08]

I love wasting time watching AR. One thing I’ve never understood is they will say I would expect it to sell at auction for $x but I would put an insurance value on it at $x plus some large amount. I guess it gets into the difference between value and replacement cost or something like that but I’ve always wondered what an insurance company might think of that notion.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Leon

If it's real that estimate is too high.,

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I also believe the estimate is to high

I hope it is real and it would be a great piece in most peoples collections.

However, even being to high if real in a bidding war on a good AH o could see if going for more then we think. Since it is an early Ruth piece.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

The one in Moe's thread was not nearly as well done. I also thought of this thread when I saw the one on AR.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=309794



Hmmmm....hadn't really noticed that.

Thanks Rob, that's the thread I was thinking about. Not the exact same calendar, but still maybe raising questions as to authenticity it seems.

[slidekellyslide]

I met Simeon Lipman at the Antiques Roadshow in Omaha about 20 years ago. He appraised my Old Judge baseball cards.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by BobC

Thanks Rob, that's the thread I was thinking about. Not the exact same calendar, but still maybe raising questions as to authenticity it seems.

You're from Parma??? Are you old enough to remember late night movies with "Ghoulardi"?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by murphusa

1917 calendar with 1918 dates. Some calendars may have January of the next year but not February, He overpaid at $250.00 IMO

Yah that seems odd. Does anyone own an old calendar, can you check if it included the next years February?

Also, the current owner said he purchased it 10 years ago. Curious where from. I don't recall this being on the market 10 year ago. I'd like to hear his answer where he got it from.

[Butch7999]

Our immediate reaction, too, on seeing that segment of the show was that the estimate seemed substantially high.
Although it's true, "ya never know at auction -- could go cheap, could go crazy."

Anyway, if it's a fantasy piece, it does look like a lot of convincing work went into making it. And is it unthinkable
that a real piece was made with a 24-page two-year (1917-18) calendar, or that once a single 1917 calendar was
exhausted a new 1918 calendar (from whatever source) might not have been attached as a replacement?

Stupid questions our specialty --

[MVSNYC]

I love AR, been watching it for decades. The other night Simeon appraised a really special complete run of UConn women's rings. The owner works for the team and I believe handles the Coach's travel. Her's is one of 3 complete sets known (including head coach and asst. coach). I thought this was very cool.

[Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey]

I watched that as well and was shocked at that price. He paid $250 for it and another $250 to have it framed like he had it.

I would say there is no way this would sell at that price, but then again, people are paying 6 figures for digital NFT's of all sorts of crap these days so as they say, a fool and his money are soon parted.....lol