Exercise Caution dealing w/Shawn Martin

[ullmandds]

I won this one day auction from Shawn Martin of the BST side a few weeks ago.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=180900

In a nutshell, here is what happened:

-Auction ended on 12/31 at 9 pm $70
-After numerous inquiries on my part, On Jan2, I received this email:

Pete,
That card was part of a group of cards I won at auction and wanted to flip. I did not receive this card with the lot that came yesterday. I am in contact with the seller and will let you know what I find out, if you are still interested.
Shawn

-After a handful of emails inquiring as to the whereabouts of this card I received this email:

From what I was told, the Rose card is supposed to be in the mail however I was not provided with a tracking #.. If I do in fact receive it you will be notified first since you won the auction. Please don't report this to Leon, I have had nothing but positive transactions on the site. I apologize for this mess up.
Shawn

-And after my last inquiry, I received this:

No Rose card. I suspect its not coming. Will let you know if it shows up

Personally I think Shawn has sellers remorse...and is conveniently renegging on this deal. I'd exercise caution in dealing with him in the future!

[peterose4hof]

I saw that auction after it was over and thought it sold for much lower than expected. If it's not seller's remorse then at the least it is certainly bad form to sell a card that one does not actually have in hand.

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

... it is certainly bad form to sell a card that one does not actually have in hand.

Especially in an auction format whereby you are making a COMMITMENT to sell an item. Best case scenario is this was poor planning/ crossed fingers on the seller's part. Worst case scenario is not "seller's remorse" but outright reneging on a commitment.

[Cardboard Junkie]

I feel for ya Pete......some of these card deals are like going to a bad dentist.

Happy Frick-in New Year Pete! ... Sorry, man.

[ullmandds]

I have a feeling the Karma police are taking note!

[pgellis]

It's funny, that exact card sold on eBay on Dec. 17. It was a single listing, not part of a "lot".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Kahns-P...p2047675.l2557

Assuming that he was the winner on eBay, he's still making a few bucks.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by pgellis

It's funny, that exact card sold on eBay on Dec. 17. It was a single listing, not part of a "lot".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Kahns-P...p2047675.l2557

Assuming that he was the winner on eBay, he's still making a few bucks.

Why do people lie on Net54? This place is full of detectives....They always get caught.

[gregr2]

The buyer left positive feedback on January 1st.

[VistaViper]

You beat me to it.

[Cobra Kai]

Nice looking Rose. Hope it works out.

[gregr2]

Originally Posted by VistaViper

You beat me to it.

[daves_resale_shop]

That's horse poop!

It's the risk you take when you put an item up for auction...

[vintagetoppsguy]

If he didn't have possession of the card yet, why would he only do a one day auction? Sounds like a lie to me.

[gregr2]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If he didn't have possession of the card yet, why would he only do a one day auction? Sounds like a lie to me.

+1! Seems like sellers remorse.

[Big Six]

Hey I@n. Probably not against rules of the b/s/t, but pretty lazy on seller's part. Sucks when you find yourself basically throwing good money at someone - full asking price in this case - and it still isn't good enough...Matt


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[brewing]

Maybe a change of the thread title is in order.


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[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by brewing

Maybe a change of the thread title is in order.


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Why? It took a public shaming for one of our members to do the right thing. If not for this thread Pete would not have gotten the card that he rightfully won in our auction forum. Shawn continued to lie about the situation even after it had become obvious that he had the card.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Why? It took a public shaming for one of our members to do the right thing. If not for this thread Pete would not have gotten the card that he rightfully won in our auction forum. Shawn continued to lie about the situation even after it had become obvious that he had the card.

I guess because we all make mistakes in life. When we do, hopefully we are forgiven, learn from our mistake, become a better person because of it, and get a second chance.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

I guess because we all make mistakes in life. When we do, hopefully we are forgiven, learn from our mistake, become a better person because of it, and get a second chance.

You're right, the only person he owes an apology to is Peter, and perhaps he gave him one in PM's or email...hopefully he learned his lesson. I still don't think the thread name should be changed...anyone reading it should be able to make up their own mind after reading the whole thread.

[ibuysportsephemera]

I agree the title should remain the same...future buyers (if they do the research) should be able to know that there was a problem in the past.

Jeff