It's now official - Mastro trimmed hisT206 Wagner

[David W]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...0451--mlb.html

What a surprise.....

[CMIZ5290]

I'm still trying to figure out how in the world a PSA 5(MC) goes for $2.1 Mil. Makes you wonder what a legit PSA 8 would sell for....

[dabigyankeeman]

Whats so pitiful is that some people are saying the card will go UP in value instead of down, because of it becoming the infamous trimmed Wagner. Geez.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by dabigyankeeman

Whats so pitiful is that some people are saying the card will go UP in value instead of down, because of it becoming the infamous trimmed Wagner. Geez.

It's like people collecting Black Sox cards, and to a lesser extent the villain Ty Cobb. People like controversy. It sells and people collect it.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

It's like people collecting Black Sox cards, and to a lesser extent the villain Ty Cobb. People like controversy. It sells and people collect it.

+1, well said. Gandil sells fairly well it seems, and I think without the scandal, not so much

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

It's like people collecting Black Sox cards, and to a lesser extent the villain Ty Cobb. People like controversy. It sells and people collect it.

I don't think people collect Ty Cobb for being a villain, but for being a Great ballplayer!!!!!

Joe

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by sports.yahoo.com

Through a Diamondbacks spokesperson, Kendrick — the card's current owner — told Yahoo! Sports:
"As a collector of rare cards and a fan who enjoys the history of the game of baseball, today's news does not change my pride in owning the Honus Wagner T-206 card. In fact, I've been advised that the notoriety of this turn of events has actually increased the value of the card and I will continue to enjoy having it as part of the 'Diamondbacks collection.' "

Who advised him? Joe Orlando?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Spin.

[ruth-gehrig]

Now how did it "pass" PSA without getting deemed trimmed altered?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Now how did it "pass" PSA without getting deemed trimmed altered?

Inexperienced grader.

[lharri3600]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Now how did it "pass" PSA without getting deemed trimmed altered?

Now that's an ez one!

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Now how did it "pass" PSA without getting deemed trimmed altered?

That's my question too. PSA looses a lot of credibility in my eyes ( even though I buy raw ) and I would think the collectors who only collect PSA or graded cards have to ask the same question. Do ANY of the grading companies measure the cards for correct size or do cards just pass an eye test? Grading is all over the place. Look at any PSA 5 and you will find card quality of all sorts. Yes, I resent the grading companies as a contributor to driving up the prices of cards. Before the grading companies, the cards we purchased had to pass a test, a test of our own eyes. This Wagner should be graded Authentic, evidence of trimming ( or trimmed ) therefore reducing the price / value of the card significantly. I'm curious if there is any legal recourse against PSA.

[AMBST95]

We'll see what he thinks when it becomes the first Wagner to take a loss in a public sale. If you are a baller kind of collector, writing checks with multiple commas, you want the best, not what used to be the best.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Who advised him? Joe Orlando?

Maybe, and if he did he might be right. I don't condone the fraud with the trimming but it's still the best looking Wags in the hobby. I am still undecided if I think it's value has held. It certainly might have. It's hard to say.....

[Peter_Spaeth]

David Hall is now in an interesting position. He of the magnifying glass.

[Orioles1954]

Best looking? Really? Every time I see that card now I'll think "crimininal", "fraud", "fake" and "trimmed" before "best looking" comes to mind.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Leon

Maybe, and if he did he might be right. I don't condone the fraud with the trimming but it's still the best looking Wags in the hobby. I am still undecided if I think it's value has held. It certainly might have. It's hard to say.....

This certainly isn't any kind of surprise to anyone. The card is in fact the best appearing Wagner by a wide margin, and its mystique won't change at all. I believe most of the owners of the card, if not absolutely all of them, already knew what Mastro recently confirmed. My humble prediction is that it will continue to rise in value as it has habitually done, and will change hands for $50 million or more within a quarter century or so (that's in the vicinity of 12% compounded annually, a rate a top flight collectible is easily capable of in most collectible fields).

Best wishes,

Larry

[atx840]

I'd just keep it. Gorgeous card either way.