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01-22-2010, 12:50 PM
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Autographalert.com ????
I saw a link to this site on another thread. A lot of investigative reportin' (they sure hate JSA and PSA/DNA, and enjoy the stuff on Epperson), but there is a lot on there that is total bull. Who is behind this site? Anyone know?
Thanks, Larry 
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01-22-2010, 01:57 PM
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I'm not sure about everything being total bull,I don't treat this site as gospel,but the facts are Jsa had made some terrible blunders,there is at least one lawsuit pending over the 30k Ed Delahanty letter that they authenticated,in which his name was misspelled 'Delehanty' http://autographalert.com/2006-7-12.html I know this to be true,the letter was pulled from a large auction house when the duped buyer went to resell it in 2009,I just find it hard to believe that people put so much stock in these authenticators,if I submitted a Keeler,Joss or even a D.T Young sig to be authenticated what do these people use as a reference?There just isnt enough reference material out there for some autographs. IMO there is a lot of room for error and when we are talking about thousands of dollars ,they can be costly errors.
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01-22-2010, 02:01 PM
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It sounds like alot of the attack on there are personal, but they do point out a lot of fakes.
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01-22-2010, 03:14 PM
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I know a few people who have been frauded by 3rd party authenticators. Not naming any company's names, but this person went to the Masters 8 or 9 years ago and he and a friend managed to get 4 Tiger Woods autographs in-person. They sent them in to be authenticated. Three came back as real, the other not real.
Me being an autograph dealer online and "out in the real world," it amazes me how much stock buyers put into 3rd party authenticators like they are the end all be all. I am careful what I buy and who I buy it from. I try to purchase large collections, especially vintage collections assembled in person. I have been selling on eBay since February 1998. What turned into a way to make extra cash in college has turned into a really good secondary business. I am proud to say that on my years of selling on eBay not one of the signed pieces I sold have come back as fake. In fact, only one of my auctions received an email from another dealer. I remember it well...it was a Don McMahon signed gumcard. Turns out his wife ghost signed a lot of items he got in the mail. Oh well. About less than 5% of autographed items I sold was slabbed or had a sticker on it. However, I do state that I would refund the purchase and authentication cost if the item was deemed fake by an authentication service of the buyer's choice. Like someone said earlier, when you see a really hard to find signature, what kind of reference do these companies have to compare the sigs with. There have been a lot of problems with 3rd party authenticators, and not just in sports autographs. There is a lot of info on the web, and not just personal attacks. Heck, there is video on the web of the Sal Bando fiasco at a local card show. It is really eye opening.
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01-23-2010, 12:11 PM
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This site has become very confusing as of late. I thought it was a "good guy" behind the site,but lately he/they have made some positive sounding references to Chris Morales
 . sorry,but if you're standing up for Morales and slamming everybody else, you've lost all credibility in my eyes.
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01-28-2010, 11:08 AM
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You are correct J. McMurry.
Frost and Koshal. That's actually amusing to me because they always list themselves as experts when they need to prove a point for their argument. They own an authenticating company themselves so they set up a blog to attack other authenticators? Has anyone ever seen anything authenticated by these two? I haven't. The BS portion that I mentioned above is due to the fact that they have a strict agenda. They don't exist to better the hobby, but merely attack who they choose. I see one piece on Morales, one on SCD and no mention of Coach's Corner or STAT because their focus appears to be on PSA/DNA, JSA and a new target in Autograph Collector's Editor, Steve Cyrkin. It would have value in this hobby if it had focus, and wasn't so biased. Thanks, Larry
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