Do we trust them now?

Just looking through Fee Bay for some 205's and ran across a group of ISA graded cards. To my surprise there is a very attractive Matty Cycle 1 loss in a ISA 5. Could this be trusted?


http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-t205-Cycle-...0#ht_542wt_907

[Ohio_Collectibles]

I've been looking over the site and some of their cards on ebay. The hobby endorsements, if true, are excellent. From the cards I have seen on ebay their "eye" for grading looks excellent.

~OC

[calvindog]

Considering the sneakiness which accompanied their presentation to this board combined with the obvious question of why anyone would have an expensive card slabbed by them instead of PSA or SGC -- I think you'd have to be out of your mind to spend any kind of real money on such a slabbed card.

Edited to add: one of the hobby endorsements is from Doug Allen. Is that an "excellent" endorsement?

[Matthew H]

I have been hearing decent feedback from some friends here locally. I've heard they have a really quick turnaround time (I haven't actually checked). I also heard that they are very consistent in their grading.

Originally Posted by Matthew H

I have been hearing decent feedback from some friends here locally. I've heard they have a really quick turnaround time (I haven't actually checked). I also heard that they are very consistent in their grading.

Thats due to the lack of customers, not good service. What have we seen them release into the hobby that is plentiful enough to determine fair and consistent grading. I personally think the Matty is Trimmed.

[bobbyw8469]

Time will tell if the general public accepts them or not. Me personally, I don't. I guess if I see some of their cards in the upcoming Robert Edwards auction catalog, with substantial bids on them, then I will take notice. I guess anything is possible, because I still see some auction houses pushing GAI crap.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Thats due to the lack of customers, not good service. What have we seen them release into the hobby that is plentiful enough to determine fair and consistent grading. I personally think the Matty is Trimmed.

Looks bigger than the SGC 92 Johnson you like, to me anyhow. What signs of trimming do you see?

[spacktrack]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Just looking through Fee Bay for some 205's and ran across a group of ISA graded cards. To my surprise there is a very attractive Matty Cycle 1 loss in a ISA 5. Could this be trusted?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-t205-Cycle-...0#ht_542wt_907

An interesting follow up...this card was re-graded by PSA at the Chicago Sun Times show last week. PSA gave it a 5.5...a half grade higher than the original ISA grade. Any thoughts as what it might go for as a PSA 5.5? Would the $15K it was on eBay for as an ISA 5 be in the ballpark?

Also, while not pre-war, the 58 Topps Jim Brown in Mile High was mentioned somewhere in this thread too. The PSA 8 in that auction sold for $2K while the ISA 8 sold for $1500...a much closer price than I would've guessed. The PSA 8 was better centered, but the ISA 8 appeared accurately graded.

[canjond]

Small sample size but certainly encouraging.